Akil and Hong welcome Angelica to the show to discuss Dual Enrollment, Admissions and Records, and chart Angelica's journey growing up ion Santa Barbara, attending SBCC as a student, and then coming back and working her way up here at the college. Along the way, the trio discuss sopes, telenovelas, air fryers, and AAPI+ run record labels.
Mentioned in this episode:
SBCC Admissions and Records - https://www.sbcc.edu/admissions/
SBCC Dual Enrollment - https://www.sbcc.edu/dualenrollment/
Fred Flintstone Bowling - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3q5oWdPPyE
Vaquero Roundup - https://www.sbcc.edu/dualenrollment/vaquero-round-up.php
MEChA - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MEChA
EOPS - https://www.sbcc.edu/eopscare/
Brazil - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(1985_film)
Sopes - https://www.mexicoinmykitchen.com/sopes-recipe/
La Cumbre Junior High - https://lacumbre.sbunified.org/
Holy Cross Catholic Church - https://holycrosssantabarbara.org/
Art Laboe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Laboe
Bella Rosa Bakery - https://www.facebook.com/LaBellaRosaBakeryCafe/
Buffalo Chicken Dip - https://www.franksredhot.com/en-us/recipes/franks-redhot-buffalo-chicken-dip
Air Fryer - https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/what-is-an-air-fryer/
Love Pho Oxnard - https://www.lovepho805.com/
Cruising Saviers Road - https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-08-12-me-972-story.html
Fishermen’s Catch - https://www.fishermenscatch.com/
Monarca - https://www.netflix.com/title/80211572
Narcos - https://www.netflix.com/title/80025172
Telenovelas - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telenovela
Marisol - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marisol_(Mexican_TV_series)
Asian Man Records - https://asianmanrecords.com/
Lauren Records - https://www.lauren-records.com/
Mitski - https://mitski.com/
Japanese Breakfast - http://japanesebreakfast.rocks/
Jay Som - https://www.jaysommusic.com/
Recipes From an Indian Kitchen - https://www.amazon.com/Recipes-Indian-Kitchen-Cookbook-Authentic/dp/1680529919
Flavor of India - https://flavorofindiasb.com/
Himalayan Kitchen (not Tibet Nepal House) - https://www.everestmenu.com/menu-himalayan-kitchen
Masala Spice -
https://www.masalaspicesb.com/
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Hong Lieu: hello, and welcome to another episode of SBCC Vaquero Voices - a podcast highlighting the unique voices that comprise our campus culture, and how we're all working together to serve our students and the Community large as usual i'm joined by co host Akil Hill.
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Akil Hill: was good yeah wake up.
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Akil Hill: Happy birthday.
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Akil Hill: birthday.
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Hong Lieu: As today's recording date is also my birthday.
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Hong Lieu: yeah mother's day, so I always say the best gift of mother could have but you know.
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Hong Lieu: With the where the truth really lies.
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Hong Lieu: And today, we are honored to welcome and hello, I can send us to the show welcome.
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Akil Hill: And having Coco well.
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Angelica Contreras: Happy birthday.
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Hong Lieu: Yes.
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Hong Lieu: So we are.
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Hong Lieu: You are joining us, as you know, you're running a couple programs here you're printing admissions and records which we have Michael Dell on earlier, you know episode four or five pretty early on in the series so we've got a pretty good run there that.
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Hong Lieu: But you're also in charge of dual enrollment here on campus to do a Roman is an important program here, so if you could kind of flesh out what that means for folks that don't know about, maybe do around if you want to see how it ties into your job misuse records, if it does it all.
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Hong Lieu: And then just yeah just.
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Hong Lieu: kind of a quick breakdown of what to do here on campus.
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Angelica Contreras: For the audience you guys, for having me good morning.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah, so I am currently overseeing the dual enrollment program here on campus and it actually does have a lot of correlation with admissions and records stolen Ronan admissions done.
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Angelica Contreras: In the past, work together very closely, and so it makes sense for our office to you know oversee the program because.
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Angelica Contreras: The Roman is a heavily heavily audited program and we get audited, so it actually is good that we have some oversight over the Program.
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Angelica Contreras: And what dual enrollment is is it's a program where students under 18 so high school students even junior high students take courses.
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Angelica Contreras: On you know either on the high school campus and get college credit where they take courses on the College campus and get credits so.
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Angelica Contreras: Students are trying to complete their high school a through G requirements and also completing some college courses that do complete there you know.
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Angelica Contreras: I get the degree certificates things like that so it's a great you know program a pathway for students to get you know introduced to college.
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Angelica Contreras: And I think the you know the future goal is to really introduce college to students that may be typically would not you know, think about college before.
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Angelica Contreras: And so we we piloted a few programs like that, where we are, you know, trying to reach out an advocate for students who are you know of our Latinos and in our communities, so we work with SP unified P Program.
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Angelica Contreras: And so we work with them to help their current cohort of students go to introduce them to college so from those students going from eighth grade two ninth grade we offer a class called.
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Angelica Contreras: Which is a course where students get time management experience on the College campus so it's a one week intensive course that's taught by our by our faculty members typically our counselors here on campus and.
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Angelica Contreras: Students, will you know, try and get the tools that they need to be successful in high school and in college in the future, but it's kind of introducing them it's kind of getting them excited about college.
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Angelica Contreras: And we really like to have that course here on the College campus so that they're physically coming here we provide lunch for them, we get the transportation here.
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Angelica Contreras: And then art we work again with the peak program and have tutors in the class and then at the end of the program it's kind of exciting, we have a.
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Angelica Contreras: A presentation, where the parents and the students come and we invite some of the Community members and students give a presentation about what they learned during the week so it's kind of an exciting.
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Angelica Contreras: program fun program I think it makes the all the hard work during all of the year, really worth it, to see what we're working for and what the goal is for the students so we'd really love to do more programs like that expand those types of programs for community.
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Hong Lieu: I guess, I had a quick question.
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Hong Lieu: You know sign up for dual enrollment to take classes, do they have to take like the I guess the you know the pre read classes, they can take any class they want or is it do they are they kind of.
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Hong Lieu: Like lead on a track like you should kind of do something that helps you when you get to college or that they can pick any class.
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Angelica Contreras: Well, there are some exceptions that they cannot take but there aren't very many typically we asked them to take their college level courses.
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Angelica Contreras: SPC does not approve the courses that they take necessarily except for the ones that we kind of have a hard, no, you should not take these they actually mean what their high school counselor.
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Angelica Contreras: And so, when they say that they complete their a through G requirements is the high school counselor that's giving them advice and advising them and saying.
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Angelica Contreras: You know, if you want to kind of leverage your schedule, you should probably take it, you know you want to go to university should probably take Spanish.
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Angelica Contreras: At the at the College campus and get that dual credit you'll get the high school credit for your language and you'll get the College credit for your language.
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Angelica Contreras: We have a lot of students that take their history classes ethnic studies.
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Angelica Contreras: Things like that mostly because they they're interested in certain courses at their high school campus and their schedule is just.
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Angelica Contreras: Maybe they're in sports and things like that and their schedule is just already so impacted that they want to take some college courses to kind of help fill their their their class schedule so they'll usually do that in the summer.
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Angelica Contreras: And, historically, you know, unfortunately, the the process to.
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Angelica Contreras: apply for college is it's not easy, so there are a lot of steps to enrollment so there's an application and as a dual enrollment student.
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Angelica Contreras: You do have to have other requirements that you need to complete so you do have to have.
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Angelica Contreras: A parent consent form it's a one time only form that you need the parent signs off that says yes i'm comfortable with my kid taking college courses, I understand that this is going to go on to college transcript.
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Angelica Contreras: And the student is now a college students, so I can't go and advocate for my student like I do at the high school, which is big.
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Angelica Contreras: And then also they have to that's just a one time only, but they also have to do what's called a dual enrollment approval form and on this form.
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Angelica Contreras: that's where they meet with the high school counselor and the high school counselor signs off and says yes, I approved for you to take this course.
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Angelica Contreras: And that's every term so it's not it's not a one and done it's you have to do that every single term you.
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Angelica Contreras: meet with your counselor to be sure that you're on the right track that you're not just taking classes, that are not really going to help your your future.
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Angelica Contreras: And the idea is to get the student on a pathway that's something that we're still in the works of doing is really trying to establish those pathways for our students so really being more intentional about how we.
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Angelica Contreras: We provide those pathways for students so right now, when we talk to talk about students taking classes on the high school campus and getting college credit so.
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Angelica Contreras: You know SP unified and carpinteria unified we work with them to offer classes on their high school campus to get college credit.
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Angelica Contreras: Some of the classes are taught by NSPCC adjuncts and some classes are taught by high school instructors that have been already approved to teach on the on the College course so they are.
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Angelica Contreras: they're hired by their paid by SP unified but they're approved to teach and so they they follow our curriculum they you know do all of that, and they get the high school and college credit.
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Angelica Contreras: And so, our idea is to in the future be more intentional about those courses on the high school campus to be sure that.
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Angelica Contreras: Those courses are meeting a pathway or attract for students so they're.
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Angelica Contreras: You know, not just all over the board but we're saying like Oh, if you take you know in high schools your freshman you take this class this class is a sophomore in this class as a junior and a senior you'll have a certificate done so really trying to.
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Angelica Contreras: Create that clear pathway for students and I keep using that word but that's the word was like we want to make sure that they have a clear way of getting forward so that they have.
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Angelica Contreras: Something that they're walking away from and if the student sees that you know, I was able to complete this well in high school and now you only have five more classes and I get my eight done.
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Angelica Contreras: Like wow we've done the student, you know a great service by doing that so that's that's the goal.
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Hong Lieu: And it's a good goal, because not only is it where students can finish earlier if a student doesn't want to finish earlier, but these want to take a.
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Hong Lieu: A broader range of classes, that may not be like requirements they have more room to kind of you know, like, I took a lot of ap classes, I am a former doolittle it was a call to the role and I did it but i'm a former.
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Hong Lieu: Student from La and I that's why I took Bowling six times when I was in.
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Hong Lieu: college graduate and five.
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Hong Lieu: degree.
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Hong Lieu: moline like six times.
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Hong Lieu: basket weaving but.
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Akil Hill: there's a reason okay.
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Akil Hill: So can throw a strike it's.
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Hong Lieu: 100 and.
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Hong Lieu: it's a good time at the Bowling alley yeah I honestly feel like Fred flintstone.
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Angelica Contreras: to walk up with the yeah but.
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Hong Lieu: But I mean, I guess, my last question before we start talking about the person that's a part of it is, is this primarily a summer program or can students use it, you know all year round, you know as long as they can handle the load because I mean it'd be a lot but.
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Hong Lieu: But it is not directly possible if they want to yes.
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Angelica Contreras: Absolutely it's theoretically possible for them to take this all year round.
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Angelica Contreras: Our busiest time for students to take classes on the College campus is in the summer.
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Angelica Contreras: So, but now that you know a lot of classes is kind of a hybrid event for the high school kids.
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Angelica Contreras: And because our classes, a lot of them are now offered online you've been seeing that students are taking advantage of that and more students are starting to take those online courses during the year as well.
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Angelica Contreras: So yeah it's they can do a range of it.
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Akil Hill: You know, we often do it with joking and admissions because the summertime it's like full blown.
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Akil Hill: High School campus with all the dual enrollment students, you know we're like it's great 13 and you know all of a lot of college students are like man i'm taking.
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Akil Hill: two semesters I i'm taking the summer off and these high school students come in and they just pick up the slack they come in, they they take classes there on campus it's really cool you know you just walk around you see them probably trying to like really envision themselves.
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Akil Hill: Being on a college campus it's such a it's such a great program in that way you know.
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Hong Lieu: yeah absolutely vouch for the value program and I would absolutely say you should do the called the classes on a college campus I don't know what the class, the College classes in high school campuses are like but.
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Hong Lieu: In terms of opening my eyes, I mean I grew up I knew I was going to college my parents from the dashboard like you're going to college you get a good job you got to take care of us because we're breaking down already.
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Hong Lieu: we're going to need you and your sisters to pay for everything we do because we love for Okay, we got nothing you're our insurance plan so you're going to college you getting a good job you do this, that that was having me and very yummy.
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Hong Lieu: So I always knew I was going to college, but even then and and full disclosure I went summer of seventh grade going to eat because they were also talking like Oh, if you want to skip high school right to college, you know so they wanted me to take to see what was going on.
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Hong Lieu: You know, so I went.
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Hong Lieu: To College and the things that I was not good at in elementary school junior high high school.
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Hong Lieu: I didn't matter in college, you know, like attendance and then they're like there's there's the various aspects of it like, not to say you shouldn't like.
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Hong Lieu: attendance is not an issue because, yes, you should go to college classes, but it was not as heavily enforce and the things it allowed me to kind of.
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Hong Lieu: See how I learned different because elementary school is a certain type of learning how you learn high school.
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Hong Lieu: there's certain way, and where where if I was to go to be like just a terrible human being absolutely like.
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Hong Lieu: You know, but but at same time seeing how college work gave me a good roadmap to the future, like okay i'm working.
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Hong Lieu: To try to get to where my classes are like that, because college classes it's really, really was the best way for me to learn, and I just had to realize that that was coming.
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Hong Lieu: And okay I don't like it right now I don't like it.
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Hong Lieu: I don't like in high school, but where i'm going is is a better way to learn, like, I just have to do the do the grunt work and get to that better way to learn, and I would never actually seen that because I just would would have just.
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Hong Lieu: been there, like, I have to do it have to do it, but actually seeing that was like oh my God it's a lot better you know I took I took anthropology.
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Hong Lieu: I took chemistry that had a lab lab lab lab we made aspirin and you made soap so seeing that kind of real hands on learning and stuff like that a young age, was.
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Hong Lieu: It was really eye opening and again it added to my transcript padam I translate where when I got to that college campus where I could learn how I.
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Hong Lieu: Like my ideal way of learning I could take whatever class, I want you know that's why I became a philosophy majors I came in, as an engineer realize i'm a terrible engineer i'm.
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Hong Lieu: You know either strikes which the business on bad a business.
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Hong Lieu: And then, all the other classes, I was taking because I had all my classes done I taking summer classes of the College I you know I had enough credits, where I could explore, I found philosophy and realize okay we'll take anybody then i'm good to go.
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Hong Lieu: And that's what it was I I can't I can't vouch for this kind of program enough, I mean.
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Hong Lieu: In all aspects It made me a better person, and it was like a big turning point in my life because it felt special to you know, like as a younger like seventh grade I mean that's actually it kind of.
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Hong Lieu: turned me like can toxic and away do because i'll come back like who's taking college classes summer seventh grade.
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Hong Lieu: But I learned to humble myself, later on, that that comes with.
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Angelica Contreras: Someone how do.
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Hong Lieu: You do you ever take yourself.
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Hong Lieu: You guys checked by someone else you never.
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Hong Lieu: check yourself hardly ever so you get check and you adjust that that's that's the process.
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Akil Hill: Well, I just want to give a special shout out to block of water she's process, a lot of the doing the majority of doing wrong and paperwork and it's it's a heavy left and it's only getting like that much bigger you know.
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Akil Hill: I mean, I feel a joke, has done an amazing job at growing that program and you know hate to say, have taken it from for bashi to what classy.
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Akil Hill: she's taking it for bashi to class.
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Angelica Contreras: Well, thank you, killing yeah Blanca is the true unsung hero here because she manually processes.
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Angelica Contreras: thousands upon thousands of forms and registration, so you know we often do have a bottleneck because of that so it's and part of it is, is that parents and students say I completed that form.
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Angelica Contreras: it's not automatic, unfortunately, it is an online forum which is great we you know at least been able to get there, but we still have a long way to go to go to make things automatic which we're hoping to do in the next year or so.
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Angelica Contreras: But so in the meantime, what happens is when a student submits a form Blanca still has to go in there and process each form and if she doesn't have one piece of the puzzle she has to stop.
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Angelica Contreras: and wait until that piece comes in and then she can process the form, and you know, sometimes students and parents can get impatient with that, so it is a lot of you know, our staff is fielding a lot of those calls.
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Angelica Contreras: from parents, which is why we, you know this of this year, what we did in april's we had a really you know I think successful event, so we have mckerrow round upon Thank you so much for helping us, you know get the website up and all those things up in place, but it was a you know.
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Angelica Contreras: An event, where we kind of advertise it is come and get all your steps done so that you can be ready to register for summer and be good to go when registration comes and people came and they came in yeah.
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Hong Lieu: you're trying to be humble yourself talking about we don't know it was assessed that event was awesome just I just I just seen the pictures all the people with their parents and all that so many students that was that was awesome.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah it was so eye opening to see that we weren't really serving our Community, so we were serving the Community and.
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Angelica Contreras: The people that came were the ones that needed the help, so we saw a lot of our Latino community that was here our parents I hadn't spoken Spanish like that in a long time, I was just my English came out.
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Angelica Contreras: It was just going from one person to the next, it was a constant trying to get students registered we had.
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Angelica Contreras: Over 400 students that completed an application on that day, so we had over 450 students that came.
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Angelica Contreras: We had another additional 580 parents and siblings that were there they got some faculty they mingled so it was like they completed one step and then we'll get some tacos and come back and come to come do this, and so it was a really great event we just.
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Angelica Contreras: On the week of the event we realistically room thinking we're going to maybe have 150 people turned out to be 1000.
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Angelica Contreras: students have their steps complete, we had everybody that just it was an all hands on deck aloma Arnold.
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Angelica Contreras: they're both type a personality so they're like they planned for the plan for the plan so, although it was way too outrageous they had backup plans and they were ready to go and.
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Angelica Contreras: Everybody chipped in we had our academic counselors that were like put me in coach let me help them with the application don't usually do that, but they knew that there was a need and.
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Angelica Contreras: simmer down next time you know break it up in a few different events, maybe have a junior high event, we had a lot of junior high students and showed up and then also have a day that's just for high school students.
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Angelica Contreras: That was that was a highlight of the year, just to see the judgment of the Community.
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Angelica Contreras: That was it was awesome and still i'm still kind of on cloud nine over that.
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Akil Hill: Well, you know it's funny too I it really hit me because Well, first of all hit me when I looked out the window and I was like.
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Akil Hill: When it really hit me was when I came home from work, and you know I went on Facebook and all these people are posting about their kids.
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Akil Hill: Like signing up like multiple people, I know, like that was high school with like yes i'm dating myself all the kids were like yo my son inside of my daughter decide the eighth grade.
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Akil Hill: we're taking college classes, you know, like to me i'm like yes that's exactly what Community colleges should be about is being in the Community.
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Akil Hill: there's two things one is like i'll say this because you know, I have a daughter that's in high school like you got to know your kid if your kid is able to handle that load, you know.
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Akil Hill: Sometimes people get caught up with the joneses and they want to do everything that everyone's doing all the time and sometimes it's just not the right.
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Akil Hill: fit so, but my daughter has taken dual enrollment classes when summer and and she did she had a great time doing that it was online, but the other piece, too, is like, and this is a speaks to a broader conversation about.
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Akil Hill: I think what we do a disservice to our kids is like when you turn 18 the parents are like okay you either go to college or you get out the House.
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Akil Hill: But the reality of it all is they haven't we haven't really been preparing our kids to be adults, and so one of the one of the ways I really believe this.
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Akil Hill: And you're in a space that isn't restricted like what was alluded to earlier about the different types of learning now you're in the classroom with people who are are literally adults.
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Akil Hill: And so you're going to probably mature a little bit more.
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Akil Hill: Because you're in a space away from your parents and learning and trying to mature, so I think doing enrollment serves multiple purposes other than just taking the class it's like helping these kids to.
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Akil Hill: mature in a ways that they don't really probably would normally do if they didn't take those classes.
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Hong Lieu: yeah and definitely seen that event is the embodiment of empowering the Community, because you see you know when you talk about we talked about community, we are not time a student.
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Hong Lieu: told my students stem faculty you talking about the families of those students and families have many you saw like multigenerational people multi generation showing up to help their kids sign up.
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Hong Lieu: Or, just to be there because I do remember as a student myself the hardest part was signing up, I had to go take a TB test, I never done that, before.
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Hong Lieu: i'd have all these kind of verification my mom didn't speak English she doesn't know what's going on, so I leaned on my sisters I leaned on other people.
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Hong Lieu: And it was it was nothing I never asked school for anything you know, like in hindsight, all the times throughout my entire educational career.
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Hong Lieu: The times I should have asked school the now the schools are thinking about this stuff but I never thought I thought it wasn't even an option.
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Hong Lieu: And just seeing the way you've you've lived in the high school counselors you've got your own Councils counselor set up on this side.
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Hong Lieu: you've looped in the Community, that the high schools, work together, like it's really nice seeing the way the program has evolved, I mean from from when I did it, you know yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I mean that's that's just really cool really cool to hear and really cool to know that folks have been bringing it up and your dress trying to address the concern so yeah well, thank you, thank.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah like I said Community effort it takes a village and and we work very closely with the district's meet me meet every week we're really strengthening our partnership with them.
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Angelica Contreras: I have them on speed dial if anything happens, we do at the event we had like you said, we have the high school and junior high counselors There we have our enrollment services team that was there.
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Angelica Contreras: You know, in addition to all these other groups, we might have the other campus we had a loner there from the equity program like we were just like whoever wants to come let's come let's showcase.
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Angelica Contreras: what's available for students, when they do step on the College campus so that they see that they're not alone, hopefully they see someone that mirrors them and they they are like Okay, I can do this, this is, this is, for me, and I think.
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Angelica Contreras: that's that's the direction that we definitely want to continue to.
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Akil Hill: Actually, the classy you're hurting.
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Hong Lieu: And to accuse point about learning to be a better adult like when I got after I was done with the class that I advise my student ID you know, the first thing I tried to do is go liquor store and buy cigarettes with it.
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Akil Hill: But, did you did you.
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Hong Lieu: Oh man, I was blown it like it was a candy cigarette you go yeah I didn't know what I was doing.
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Hong Lieu: it's a great program I mean all joking aside all you know so it's a great program very I would I can't vouch for it enough, I mean, I have no experience with sbc still remote, but I know getting folks.
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Hong Lieu: To just see what college classes like because there's so many aspects to learning and maybe the you know elementary high school, if you think it might not be for you there's probably a piece of the College experience, that is for you, and vice versa, maybe you know you really go so there's.
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Angelica Contreras: definitely have seen that a lot of students said, you know the social aspect of high school is just not for them, but being serious about colleges.
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Angelica Contreras: are being serious about the classroom having to not you know deal with all that noise of the social aspect and students are successful in that way, so you know, providing that that needed that's that's where what a student needs yeah.
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Hong Lieu: there's really room to get in where you fit in where it's like their restaurants at the restaurant is like no modifications, you know you can't do that food is when it comes out that's like elementary high school their accounting for the Community there they've got a.
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Hong Lieu: We got to do things a certain way i'm not begrudge them because that experience was was very important for me to in my growth.
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Hong Lieu: So it's it is, it is how it is, but you get a lot more choice to have it your way college for sure and and seeing that for the first time can be an eye opener in.
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Hong Lieu: Sure, a profound moment for a lot of folks you saw the happiness interfaces at the moment event, you know what the potential there is.
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Hong Lieu: The fact that you're just helping them maximize I mean it's a good position to be in as much work as you do, and as hard as you were we know we don't have to keep grinding like we we see in an office.
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Akil Hill: hey listen, you know when the administrator of the year.
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Akil Hill: When the Ministry of the year.
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Akil Hill: without putting work is so we got to give a special shout out to to a joke of for this year for winning.
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Akil Hill: The administrative year where it is so rightly rightly deserved it, you know it's been a it's been a great ride with her, I mean I remember.
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Akil Hill: i'm in admissions and records for a while now, and I remember how the department was prior to her arrival and then I know what it's like now and it's literally like one at its she took it from classy.
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Akil Hill: So we appreciate you for that.
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Angelica Contreras: I don't like talking about myself I don't take compliments very well as my husband, I need to win the administrator year after such a hard few years i'm.
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Angelica Contreras: very emotional and rewarding just as just to see that my colleagues respect the work that i'm doing and they see the work that i'm doing it's just wow yeah that was.
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Angelica Contreras: Pretty nice pretty Nice.
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Hong Lieu: So yeah you're feeling the love from the Community.
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Hong Lieu: If you I mean yeah not not a bad place to be and I guess to segue into our next section what brought you to SPC What was your path like I mean.
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Angelica Contreras: I mean yeah so i'm a local i'm born and raised Santa Barbara cottage hospital here just down the road, I actually grew up pretty close to NSPCC you're here on the Mesa my mom was a single mom raising eight kids.
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Angelica Contreras: So I have, I have some siblings that are about 10 years older than me and then I have some younger siblings as well, and my my sister who's 10 years older than me is actually the first person that introduced me to sbc.
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Angelica Contreras: And I think I was about 989 or so, when she started her college career here at SP CC.
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Angelica Contreras: Really, more so being interested in the social aspect of college so she was really into Mucha she was really into the chicano movement.
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Angelica Contreras: And so, she would bring me tagging along with her, because she had to watch her younger sister, so I got to attend many events with her here and for me that was like.
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Angelica Contreras: The whoa factor like wow look at these students so passionate about learning and so passionate about their food ah, and that was my very first experience here.
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Angelica Contreras: And when I say that that school save me that's that's a real thing I didn't have the easiest childhood um.
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Angelica Contreras: I you know my my siblings were in and out of jail, there was not a lot of stability growing up, and so, for me, I always knew that that school was my path in.
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Angelica Contreras: And, thankfully, I did because that's not always the path for everybody, so you know people it's not always easy to see that early on and and and I did, for whatever reason, I was just like I gotta go keep keep pushing forward going to college and so.
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Angelica Contreras: It was it was tough and then you know once I was ready to graduate high school, I mean I when I applied to college got into some great universities, I got into Berkeley Dante cla got a TC sd and I had no idea what I was doing no idea.
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Angelica Contreras: And I didn't have the money to pay for it, I didn't have the family stability to say here, you know those go to college and will help you that that just wasn't there.
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Angelica Contreras: And, and the talk about financial aid in the pathways that's we're talking about I didn't have someone that looked like me saying this is the way in I think in that, and I think that's why I feel so strongly about kind of the store enrollment Community college.
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Angelica Contreras: Because, if I had that maybe my path, would be a little different I love path that amount, but maybe it would have been a little bit different so because of that it I didn't go away to college and steady came to us bcc, which was the greatest gift.
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Angelica Contreras: got into the lps program got a family there that was just an amazing family that you know lifted me up provided me the tools that I needed to be successful Tutoring I became a peer mentor there and then.
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Angelica Contreras: I actually applied and work that at an admissions so back in 2002 I think it was I was a student worker here working for Blanca so Blanca I was Blanca student worker she was giving me tasks to do, along with others, of course, with my ego was here at the time and.
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Angelica Contreras: And, and the guy does a student worker and I worked as a student worker under allison allison canteen at that time and.
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Angelica Contreras: She was one of those other kind of role models that I saw like this lady is a hard worker and she gets things done and that's that's what I like and so.
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Angelica Contreras: I kind of saw that that was a pathway, and I always really just liked helping students learn about college so as an when I got really close to.
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Angelica Contreras: Dave Morley in ups, who was a counselor back then, and so I asked him if I could shadow him if I could intern with him.
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Angelica Contreras: And so I did as a student I interned with Dave Morley sat in on some advising sessions, I thought I was gonna be counselor I was like okay Okay, this is like you know I like helping students, I know this is what I wanted to continue to work in.
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Angelica Contreras: In admissions when I graduated us bcc I actually went to ucsb so I transferred to ucsb and I stayed working in admissions during that time so.
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Angelica Contreras: I was back in admissions when we were registering students.
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Angelica Contreras: With the pink little card, and they would write down their first choice second choice by the time they got up to the front of the line.
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Angelica Contreras: Was that class still open or not, there was no online registration, it was we were doing things by hand manually on our own so.
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Angelica Contreras: It was a good time to be here and I never I never really left, I feel like you know, then I graduated uc speed started my family and then I came back to work, actually indoor Roman think that was maybe 2005 2006 I was an hourly worker for a little moment at that time so.
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Angelica Contreras: I was helping their program and then, then I went off to ucsb to work full time and then I was like Okay, I need to get a full time job now.
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Angelica Contreras: So I worked at ucsb for for seven years, and I was and I worked for some great programs there was in statistics and apply probability as an advisor so I got a really good foundation of working with students.
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Angelica Contreras: But it still wasn't what I wanted to do, because at that point students already knew what they wanted, they were already on their path and I just didn't find the fulfillment and the full joy.
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Angelica Contreras: In that, and so, then I moved to a different program within the college of letters and science, I I worked as a coordinator of undergraduate research and.
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Angelica Contreras: Some are good grants so some grants for students, that they would apply to but, again, that was helping students that.
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Angelica Contreras: Had higher GPA that knew what they wanted to do, which was great great I mean I wouldn't give that up for anything but it's still I was yearning for something else, and what that was was coming back to this bcc.
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Angelica Contreras: So I did I took a leap I applied for SPC allison interviewed me and others, I think a kill might have been on that athlete.
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Angelica Contreras: That that that panel actually.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah So then, then I came back and I worked in the transcript evaluation office.
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Angelica Contreras: For several years there and then I just kind of kept making my own path I moved up as a lead transcript analyst.
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Angelica Contreras: Still staying connected to admissions and records, so I still connected to admissions a position for a supervisor came up in admissions and.
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Angelica Contreras: And, which was I you know I got a lot of support from admissions and records, a lot of support from admissions at encouraging me to apply for the position.
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Angelica Contreras: Which is like the best situation to be in to know that the you know your your colleagues respect you and are saying we really see you here.
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Angelica Contreras: makes it so easy to move into a new position so when I came into the position of course I knew everybody I knew, my colleagues and so when I.
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Angelica Contreras: I sat down with them, they just they I think they see the work ethic, and they work hard, I mean our admission staff is really the backbone of the College they without us there is no registration, there is no grades, we do everything from a through Z can.
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Akil Hill: Can you just repeat that one more time.
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Akil Hill: I just want the listeners to hear that.
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Angelica Contreras: We really are admissions and records is the backbone of the College, we we we really make the College go round.
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Angelica Contreras: And, and I say that in all you know honesty that we that we work our butts off like we really do and it comes to us from all angles, so we are with the students, the parents, the Faculty.
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Angelica Contreras: administrators, like all angles come at US air and we there's decisions that need to be made, we unfortunately sometimes we're not always the most.
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Angelica Contreras: And so, sometimes people don't like that, and unfortunately it's just the way that our office runs is, we have to be, we have to ensure that we're you know that quality control of our college is being.
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Angelica Contreras: looked after sexually so so yeah that so, then I you know I came into the supervisor position, and then it kept with leading up.
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Angelica Contreras: To the assistant director of admissions and did that, for a few years again just i've always had people on this campus that have looked out for me, Michael muddles been amazing as.
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Angelica Contreras: As a leader for our campus and for our department so he's been very supportive he's a great teacher and he's helped me, learn and grow.
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Angelica Contreras: And he gives he gives me a lot of flexibility to to to learn and grow, which has been really, really refreshing for me um so yeah so then.
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Angelica Contreras: You know, Michael waddell moved on to help in another area, so I was asked to help Oh, I guess, before then, I was asked to help a dual enrollment office you know back in 20 December 2020 or so.
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Angelica Contreras: Officially, since January 2021 and then, when my Commodore moved over to the Dean position back in August September i'm using moved into the director position of addition so that's kind of where I am right now, no full circle I started at the bottom now and you guys.
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Akil Hill: Like you said.
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Akil Hill: I want to give a special shout out to Michael too, because I think you hit it on the head.
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Akil Hill: michaels one of those Dudes that people don't he doesn't move loudly like he's always in the back in the like you know, like.
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Akil Hill: In the corner like really supporting people believing and mentoring and teaching people but he's not always front Center with it, so I.
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Akil Hill: think like that's even worth mentioning because he's done a lot of good things for me and and I think he does a lot, I see a lot of people in this office that's a good thing about where I sit, sometimes I see people walking by come by oh so.
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Akil Hill: So so once you go see the agenda today.
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Akil Hill: For 45 minutes.
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Angelica Contreras: But we were talking about.
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Akil Hill: So, again it's just certain people like move, you know different like you know I mean building report mentoring people in Jamaica you're great at that too is just getting people to kind of buy in and.
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Akil Hill: And and really you know groom them, you know, in a lot of ways, so you know what I had to say that real quick how to get that in but it's true it's absolutely true.
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Angelica Contreras: And I hope I do attacked, you know, sometimes I encourage people to do more and go to school and.
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Angelica Contreras: I don't want to see them here forever.
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Angelica Contreras: You know I do want my staff to grow, I do try and encourage my staff to you know, do you know do.
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Angelica Contreras: personal enrichment things professional development things like that, because that That brings me joy to see that others, you know, are also moving forward.
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Hong Lieu: So yeah and the and the backbone analogies is good, because you know he talked about the body as a whole, every wants to be the hands are also the brain ever wants to be the heart, no one wants to do with the paperwork at the.
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Hong Lieu: I mean they want is.
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Hong Lieu: They want to like change students lives, and all this.
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Hong Lieu: No one wants to mess, with the paper notes to verify that everything exactly correct somebody's got to do that work and hold everything up you know so you're the support structure you hold everything up.
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Hong Lieu: I mean it both ways sometimes you're like, why are you holding me up it's been three weeks, but.
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Hong Lieu: there's always a reason and it's a good one because you mean.
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Hong Lieu: Like you said this college would not move, I mean they made movies about paperwork brazil's a great film about paperwork, but.
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Hong Lieu: I mean it's true you get your ducks in a row your records, have to be clean, you know, like your and and and if they're not they will help you so it's not like, as I leave now Nicole.
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Hong Lieu: I mean you're you're helping everyone get to where they need to be but yeah that process, I mean just the nature of paperwork it's gonna be it's gonna be gnarly sometimes yeah.
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Akil Hill: I think the most challenging things about paperwork and I in what's been my experience working at city college is.
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Akil Hill: How certain people navigate their space they expect you to navigate your space in that same way.
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Akil Hill: And it's like no I got you have different policies and procedures, I oversee us so therefore our paperwork has to look like this well, you may submit your paperwork or not really care or like.
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Akil Hill: That can't fly in a mission and record, like everything needs to be signed, dated all of that, and so that to me is always interesting because i'm like.
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Akil Hill: Okay homie like you may not want to sign off on that we can't give that to me, so I can keep in my record, because if we get audited they pull that paperwork.
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Akil Hill: Like it's kind of like one of those things it's like look like if it was just you that's cool but we got policies that dictates how we should be taken in paperwork and people have our time really understanding that.
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Akil Hill: It says that needs to meet the needs to be side.
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Angelica Contreras: Otherwise it's going to go back.
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Hong Lieu: Exactly, and that is where the delay happens, you know you do and when something comes back so like they ever say measure twice cut once.
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Hong Lieu: paperwork is absolutely measure twice cut once and if it's not then it's you like people always like what's the holdup there's always a reason and they might just not might not want to share that with you can be might be, you know, like.
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Hong Lieu: yeah yeah when you see all sizes amazingly someone messed up and it got sent back, but, but you know.
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Angelica Contreras: And a lot of that comes with.
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Angelica Contreras: Experience so kill does a great job of navigating that and making sure that you know he's you know letting them whoever it is students faculty know you know this is can't get it done until this is this is complete.
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Angelica Contreras: And so there's a lot of that it takes a lot of patience and right now it's definitely going to be the busy time I can see those incomplete rolling in for a kill.
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Angelica Contreras: Great grades are due next week so we're we're coming into the busy time right now and then we have summer registration that just starts that next day so some summer school starts already so we're.
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Angelica Contreras: we're coming into very busy time for our office for dual enrollment and for admissions and records, a lot of those deadlines are just kind of coinciding right now.
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Hong Lieu: Oh yeah commencement and then.
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Angelica Contreras: I after commencement.
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Angelica Contreras: It just it's just never ending.
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Hong Lieu: So so segue into our next section beauty.
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Hong Lieu: Any memorable food you ate growing up a restaurant you've been to recently, something you love to cook anything under the sun dealing with food, if you want to kick us off and helical we're we're happy to hear about it.
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Angelica Contreras: So you know talking about my mom so my mom raised eight kids who were all on different paths.
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Angelica Contreras: Something that always brought us together was my mom's cooking and so, and not only us, but our little community, so we did grow up in a little housing area here on the Mesa, and so my mom was known for her cooking and when it was mama's time to cook people were at the door.
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Angelica Contreras: So she she would and she loved it, it was part of who she was she was very giving him that way that was her love language was to cook and to see smiles on people's faces so.
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Angelica Contreras: And one of those favorites list so purpose of.
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Angelica Contreras: them, and of course I helped even at a young age, making those tortillas to make the soap is getting my fingers burned as i'm making my little corners.
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Angelica Contreras: And then she just did some like braised meat that was just cooked for hours, it was you could just lick your fingers was delicious and.
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Angelica Contreras: Some and she would make fresh Castle so she would make her own castle in our home, we would have the cheese little things hanging outside dripping down all the cheese that oh my gosh it was you could just eat that with one of her homemaker visas and it was just.
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Angelica Contreras: I could never recreate it i've tried.
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Angelica Contreras: So my mom did pass away seven years ago, and so there's a lot of of her cooking that I missed and i've tried to and she did teach me some things before she passed, I was pretty much the only one that was always in the kitchen with her.
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Angelica Contreras: And I, and I think I get a lot of that from her that's awesome I love languages because kind of cooking and and and feeding people and having people over and it just It makes me very happy.
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Angelica Contreras: So yeah So this was her theme Castle fresco enchilada should make home everything was homemade from scratch and she loved us for solid I met my husband at a very young age, so we actually met in seventh grade shout out to the Cooper junior high.
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Hong Lieu: theatre arts Nice.
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Angelica Contreras: We met and he he was a funny guys, so I don't know if you guys know the Pipers burke's here in town so candace piper's Burke.
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Angelica Contreras: I did her, and I would take the bus home together and.
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Angelica Contreras: My husband and her were close so he asked her can you get her number for me, this was you know when we still had chords on our phones and so.
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Angelica Contreras: I eventually I kept saying no and then eventually even and gave gave her my number to share with him and that's how our romance started, we will be on the phone for hours.
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Angelica Contreras: And, and you know, thanks to candace and i've told her many times, and so my husband, you know got to be around my mom at a young age and.
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Angelica Contreras: My mom really love to my mom loved Joseph.
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Angelica Contreras: sheet and she loved to cook for him so anything he wanted he got so he he definitely has some good food memories, with my mom as well as bringing all of us together and if my husband's a big football fan, so he would.
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Angelica Contreras: You know, coordinate his football watching in my my living room and my mom would cook for him, which means I would too, so you know just at a young age, we were always hanging out.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah just you know we we would I was kind of cautious of him, because I was a very cautious kid so our first date was at a church so.
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Angelica Contreras: we're going to church together and I wasn't super religious, but I was an altar girl growing up so so we met there at the Holy cross here on the Mesa and.
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Akil Hill: So that's an old school of man.
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Hong Lieu: Oh yeah that's what i'm saying yeah asking for a phone number back in those days.
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Hong Lieu: I mean hell is it that was a big step.
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Hong Lieu: You know people talk about fear rejection.
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Hong Lieu: Today that'd be rejection was like.
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Hong Lieu: Nine number 9000 then.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah I mean he wasn't making mixtapes we I moved to my dad's in La for a few years, and we would write letters to each other so it's it's that good you know.
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Akil Hill: shopkeepers or white kids do.
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Hong Lieu: The thing that things aren't Lobo dedication some major.
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Akil Hill: yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: That was part of my childhood.
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Akil Hill: Definitely yeah absolutely.
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Hong Lieu: So, are you allowed to divulge you're a masa plug or is that, like a family secret do you like to say where you get your muscle from for so.
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Angelica Contreras: long now.
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Angelica Contreras: They no longer no longer do that so now I just get it at my time, make it myself or i'll get to that level yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah so that's that's that's my go to I haven't done it in a while it's all hard work it's a lot of work and.
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Akil Hill: i'm gonna put you on blast real quick.
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Akil Hill: Angelica and i'm gonna let the listeners know like she makes a mean buffalo.
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Akil Hill: Like we have potlucks and i'll be like I remember one time, I was I got busy, and then I went back and was gone, I was like heated do.
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Akil Hill: Like man I.
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Angelica Contreras: want to talk bad about my coworkers.
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Akil Hill: Show, but they did me dirty man, it was gone and I was like I feel some kind of way about it.
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Akil Hill: So just fyi if you guys, are you know, like the next time we potluck in that has to be on the list of chicken.
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Angelica Contreras: I haven't done that in a while we've done some really good pilots i'm not sure.
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Akil Hill: yeah hot dogs nachos.
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Hong Lieu: Above buffalo chicken dip is it like that to dip your chicken in or their chicken is.
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Angelica Contreras: chicken buffalo sauce in a frank's buffalo sauce cream cheese.
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Hong Lieu: Oh.
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Akil Hill: You don't know play.
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Akil Hill: Those good.
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Angelica Contreras: Oh, that that's that's your jam yeah I get that request a lot.
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Hong Lieu: wankers favorite so it's.
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Hong Lieu: it's serving the crop Patterson right.
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Hong Lieu: there's no there's no way that they can stay in.
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Hong Lieu: Debt bubble for any.
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Hong Lieu: nacho thing you got to have a crock that sounds easy.
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Akil Hill: that's like the old school of the.
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Hong Lieu: crockpot oh yeah yeah my mom couldn't help but be like what I can leave it on all day don't have to look at it and it keeps me warm and.
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Hong Lieu: Certain Soups and stuff oh yeah like if you're making she makes Lotus route.
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Hong Lieu: soup, and like she got to have the crockpot because, like it just like you just put it in the corner and get it so but.
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Angelica Contreras: Have you guys, have you guys, do you guys have an air fryer so I just recently got introduced to the air fryer world.
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Angelica Contreras: And it's also a game changer yeah Oh, my goodness, I had no idea, so my husband just got me an air fire because i've kind of been hinting in here there.
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Angelica Contreras: A lot.
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Hong Lieu: And, did you know, did you know when you think about it, she knows gonna be like.
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Angelica Contreras: I don't.
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Hong Lieu: know I didn't just kind of curious, and then it blew your mind because yeah I heard nothing but good things, but.
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Angelica Contreras: We got me this nice one that's.
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Angelica Contreras: that's why yeah so I made some chicken, the other day in it and it the flavor just stayed with juicy I was able to cook my whole meal.
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Angelica Contreras: In in 20 minutes, I was like what.
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Akil Hill: When did I not I did not know this, where has.
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Angelica Contreras: And I mean my life is pretty busy right now with work so anything to save time and to be sure we're picking now i'm like Oh yes, air fire.
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Akil Hill: No it's good, you have to try the air fire.
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Akil Hill: sign up getting old his kitchen appliances right that's my mark when you get a new vacuum, when you get a new little.
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Akil Hill: William sonoma like that's a sign of yeah you're definitely get you up there in age, but you gotta cook salmon.
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Akil Hill: In the air fryer roxanne makes this one dish where she just salt and pepper a little bit of seasoning throws it in seven minutes later you're just moist Sammy like day seven minutes.
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Angelica Contreras: i'm accepting recipe so.
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Hong Lieu: We got an air fryer and then we decided to give it to my wife's grandma because she really needed one, and she does it is so convenient so i've never had one in the House, but then all my friends like, why did you do that, you won't believe what I make and everyone's got a different thing.
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Hong Lieu: everybody's got everything.
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Hong Lieu: yeah i'll throw one person, one homie those chicken wings and there was a fish why don't we just does frozen Fries from this and they're all like it's incredible you won't believe and i'm always looking at my wife's family, please give me back because i'm not i'm not taking it back.
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Angelica Contreras: You know.
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Hong Lieu: i'm gonna be like hey can I have a back.
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Hong Lieu: But if she's ever like you don't really use it, you want it back that's what i'm waiting for, I mean I should I should just buy another one, but at this point i've been i've held down for so long that i'll wait a little bit.
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Angelica Contreras: Everything is so crispy outside and so moist and good insight.
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Hong Lieu: and always cooked through like there's no.
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Hong Lieu: Good yeah the other The other thing everyone told me to buy it was an insta pot, and I bought into the pot and and yes it's Nice.
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Hong Lieu: But I use it, maybe like once every three months, you know what like like a couple times a year like I like i'm not use it all the time for the air fryer sounds like I would use it all the time, you know, so I definitely to get back on that train.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah food is food is my joy, so I mean we do eat out a lot, which is why i'm glad we got there for i'm trying to cook at home, more.
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Angelica Contreras: Expensive eating out to family of four whoo.
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Akil Hill: yeah it's.
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Angelica Contreras: it's it's a lot.
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Angelica Contreras: And my kids like expensive things.
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Angelica Contreras: They like sushi.
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Angelica Contreras: And oh yeah the good steaks like will go and make sense, like OPS peak steak and eggs and i'm like excuse me.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah what happened to Captain crunch, no more.
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Angelica Contreras: exist in our kids are spoiled like this money they got French toast every morning they try.
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Angelica Contreras: me a warm meal.
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Angelica Contreras: Again food is my love language, so I make them a warm meal in the morning, they get sausage bacon eggs in the morning they're they're kind of spoiled.
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Angelica Contreras: Because I don't know what they eat at school for lunch like I can't be there to see it and control it, so I my my mind, is just says, I need to make sure that I know what they're eating for breakfast and it's very rare that they'll ever have cereal.
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Angelica Contreras: For breakfast like this, I must, I have to be either not feeling well or in a rush I woke up late but usually not that my kids get get that pretty well.
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Angelica Contreras: spoiled little kids but they're good.
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Angelica Contreras: they're good kids.
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Akil Hill: The apple the apple didn't fall.
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Akil Hill: fall tree sound like you just you tell me made me think about you talking about your mom right now so.
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Hong Lieu: yeah look if.
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Akil Hill: You could sell the apple doesn't fall far.
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Hong Lieu: and food is a love language is really something that just speaks to everyone, because I know my mom.
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Hong Lieu: Was sewing clothes, you know worked in a sweatshop basically garment be called garment factory, but you know pay by the piece working all day but she would stop two times a day to make lunch and and make dinner.
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Hong Lieu: And then, if she if she looked at the Florence at this is dirty I need a MOP the floor like what.
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Hong Lieu: Are you doing mommy the rest never rest yeah but but, but every about two square meals, a day, do you make much make dinner to do all the cooking so.
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Hong Lieu: It was just just one of those things where you get in where you fit in you know what to do well, and you do it and you serve and serve the Community like we talked about you know with the blue SPC that that cooking serves the Community in many ways as well.
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Akil Hill: Thank you guys.
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Hong Lieu: Thank you for sharing you want to go kill you want me to go.
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Akil Hill: out through real quick so i'm still keeping with my a month.
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Akil Hill: In my in so i'm going to go as oxnard the collections, a place called love.
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Akil Hill: Is it for pho I can't but.
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Hong Lieu: I would go with.
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Hong Lieu: But I mean four or five is is is the closest by would go with because it's yeah that's just the pronunciation of it but but Fo is like more fanatical you look at the word so either or.
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Akil Hill: So this spy is like right when you walk into the annex, so the right hand side all depends on where you walk in, but the main entrance.
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Akil Hill: When you walk in the main entrance it's on your right hand side, a kind of a just a small little quaint Vietnamese restaurant that does flow really well does you know the shrimp fried rice really well the fried chicken wings really well.
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Akil Hill: But I usually go with my go to lately has been a pH three, which is like a spicy fun so it's already seasoned and it's already like really, really good I always that's where I lean in on and then wifey usually leads and on the shrimp fried rice so just.
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Akil Hill: really good food and it's really reasonably priced it's not gonna like you can eat probably to you guys for under 50 bucks.
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Akil Hill: And then, this one good thing about this restaurant what secret thing about this restaurant, a lot of people don't know is the boba is actually amazing there's a Barber shop in the collections and.
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Hong Lieu: All the time yeah.
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Akil Hill: Well, the time this place is better than all the time, but people just don't go too well, sometimes the younger kids will come and those older the Baba Baba Baba is really good so that's the little sneaky sneaky plug about it's called love, but that's my pick for this week.
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Hong Lieu: I I was just at the collection on Saturday driving back from La we stopped there, and you know people talk about malls or dad is that you go the collection on a Saturday night that place is insane like it was unbelievable how many people were there, I can yeah.
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Akil Hill: it's cracking in oxnard down there.
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Akil Hill: yeah no.
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Angelica Contreras: place to be.
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Akil Hill: But ochsner has a history of that though back in the day, like saviors and.
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Akil Hill: Everything by.
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Akil Hill: Just there's something about that Community they're really into being it out.
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Akil Hill: It Community it's great, and I remember when the collection set empty for like years during like the big housing recession and and they stopped building and then all of a sudden, they started back again and it's just it's just cracking down there.
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Hong Lieu: yeah it's nice to mention saviors because you know you can crusaders and people do cruise the collection.
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Hong Lieu: There that little search.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah i'd be looking for parking.
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Hong Lieu: Like hey you might as well bring the Nice whip and make sure you're bumping good so yeah.
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Akil Hill: yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I was just I was just shocked cuz i'm a small kid I grew up going them all loving.
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Hong Lieu: Every second, of being them all, and then the outer prominent was like old south as their story like that was that was ever just like get new clothes.
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Hong Lieu: pin awesome Chris.
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00:57:28.230 --> 00:57:34.230
Hong Lieu: rocking around like seeing what's up to people like that collect That was what I saw the collection, it was it was pretty pretty good to see because.
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Hong Lieu: Everywhere here about malls did this i'm like I don't know what they did here urban planning wise or how they how they research this but they hit it on the head like nail that thing out of the park.
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Akil Hill: No, but, most people don't know about oxnard is the mall used to be where that whole nordstrom Rack.
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Angelica Contreras: is so.
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yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I see.
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Akil Hill: I used to go get my cross colours there.
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Akil Hill: yeah so that's people that are from the Community know like that mall was like the spot back in the day, you know they tore down, and then they built what they built their that's their now and then, now the collections is the new the new thing that the new pups place to be so yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: I grew up in La for a few years I was there from eighth grade until junior year and it's so true at that you, you were if you lived in La or mole rat.
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Angelica Contreras: I even worked at a clothing store in high school, I was at the I was at the spirals getting my pizza after school.
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Angelica Contreras: You know.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah.
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Hong Lieu: You were most your mom will should go to monitor that time.
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Angelica Contreras: Either surreal small.
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Hong Lieu: Oh yeah.
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More.
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Angelica Contreras: fancier mall was Delano mall that's why wouldn't we really want you know, want to get fancy and then the other one was what's the mall that's in the one that I would go to all the time Sentinel not Santa fe springs.
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Hong Lieu: Center.
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Angelica Contreras: county it's a dad okay I can't think of the name of it with me on.
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Hong Lieu: The global fashion, yet.
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Hong Lieu: They called the global fashion Plaza or whatever it was yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: I was a big one, but cerritos mall are there all the time.
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Angelica Contreras: Just hanging out or the mall just right there by the House right near downey and now that place is so different it's everything looks like when I go back now because my brother still lives in La.
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Angelica Contreras: And my parents do actually might my dad and my.
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Angelica Contreras: mom live in La still so I get to go there, often and it's it's the the outside of the mall I feel like is what's now come up the mall itself it's kind of still.
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Angelica Contreras: You know kind of trying to keep alive, but everything on the outskirts the outside type malls are the ones that are really doing well over there.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Oh yeah shut up shots the collection shut up.
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Hong Lieu: Giving kids something to do with yes.
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Akil Hill: shout out to fox hill mall.
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Hong Lieu: baldwin hills crenshaw always have.
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Hong Lieu: Good food, I mean yeah and then on the side we had we had.
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Hong Lieu: sanity tomorrow montebello.
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Hong Lieu: all over the place, but yeah Okay, thank you, kill my PIC was in oxnard as well um it's another it's just a fisherman's catch it's over I don't even know where i'll put a link in the show notes it's over by the harbor side by the one the water.
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Hong Lieu: I have a couple friends there they've from I mean they're not familiar from Arizona moved out to La to get a job.
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Hong Lieu: And they were sound guys they either I was our first boss, when I was at activision do videos so I was a first boss.
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Hong Lieu: Show them the ropes whatever whatever, but you know we stayed in touch over the years, they they would in La they have 17 years this year so, but that was their spot they told me about fisherman's kitchen is you know just.
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Hong Lieu: One of those like fried seafood.
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Hong Lieu: grill the fried seafood it's just like you know all the all the spots by the beach have one of those.
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Hong Lieu: see if we can get fried shrimp right scallops fried fish with better Fries grilled salmon my my yellow stuff so that's.
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Hong Lieu: I mean they found that by driving up the one they're exploring you know California, because they knew the area and they've always liked it.
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Hong Lieu: And so, when I moved to Santa Barbara after I left, we were always meeting there be down there so.
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Hong Lieu: Recently, just met on there for the last time because they're moving back to Arizona, because they got okay to do remote work, you know and video games won't work is very rare, so the fact that they got approved means they're doing good work so.
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Hong Lieu: yeah just so efficient sketches it's it's good food it's not like amazing unbelievable but it's solid and then just just the memories of seeing them all the time there and.
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Hong Lieu: and happy for them, because yeah I was there when they were testers like willing to give up like we're making no money we're not going to get into audio audio that's not going to do anything.
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Hong Lieu: Just like hang on you know you got to play the long game and they play the long game and now once a senior designer other ones gonna sound design they work on all the call of duty game, so all the kids will call of duty, I mean staples.
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Hong Lieu: staples brothers a column staples brother, but a stables brother has touched the sound files in your call of duty game and yeah.
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Hong Lieu: it's something that were like they were tested for your long time and then the higher slowly moved up.
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Hong Lieu: taking them 17 years but they finally got where they were they were they were supposed to go, and you know, like the long game paid off.
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Hong Lieu: And so, when I think about that you know the fisherman's kids like it's just a bunch of fried seafood it's gonna it'll be fine but yeah.
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Hong Lieu: For me it's more than memories is chillin with them and, just like yeah that kind of thing so probably that's also where the days hot chicken is now that area is over there off of that.
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Akil Hill: Oh yeah.
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Hong Lieu: yeah I didn't go two days, because it was like.
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Hong Lieu: It was like 10 minutes away yeah, but I want to go because i've been in i've been two days, for I need chicken on a bone.
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Hong Lieu: You can call it hot chicken just called hot chicken strips I need a bone somewhere, you know there's no both but it's still good it's very good.
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Akil Hill: But yeah.
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Akil Hill: yeah I agree.
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Hong Lieu: With the order wings I don't know but I need something on a boat.
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Akil Hill: No, but hold up do you put vinegar on your fish and chips.
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Hong Lieu: not always I mean i'm a i'm a Tartar sauce junkie.
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Hong Lieu: But I do like the vinegar.
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Hong Lieu: I do, I will do vinegar.
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Akil Hill: All right.
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Hong Lieu: I like against is just like i'm such a Tartar sauce junkie that's like.
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Akil Hill: yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: just go and meet the good homie.
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Angelica Contreras: Tartar sauce and we just had fish fish tacos the other night.
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Angelica Contreras: So good ranch dressing Pickles Pickles Jews off.
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Hong Lieu: it's not like a sweet relative or you can use just regular Pickles or is it.
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Angelica Contreras: I just use regular Pickles I see some up Nice and slow it just it makes that fish taco yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: Okay elevates it to another level.
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Akil Hill: hey I got a couple mason jars over here.
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Akil Hill: On campus Tuesday, Wednesday.
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Thursday
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Hong Lieu: yeah Tartar sauce for the fried fish.
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Hong Lieu: cocktail sauce or the fried shrimp i'm pretty basic in that regard, but it gets the job done so.
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Hong Lieu: All right, moving along to higher learning our culture piece and Helen if you want to kick us off again movies music TV books film video games anything that has moved you now or in your past.
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Hong Lieu: That you want to just kind of share with the audience and in hip somebody up husky on let it rip.
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Angelica Contreras: That you can prepare for this one guys.
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Hong Lieu: Anything on your mind recently, you know you.
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Hong Lieu: have seen.
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Akil Hill: On netflix or.
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Angelica Contreras: let's see um I do a lot of Spanish shows.
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Angelica Contreras: So i'm.
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Angelica Contreras: guessing when I.
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Hong Lieu: haven't.
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Hong Lieu: heard about it, though.
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Angelica Contreras: Good a good show, I guess, I guess, I kind of like the nautical shows, maybe because my family's from Mexico and it's kind of you know if you know we do make the trip to Mexico quite often.
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Angelica Contreras: So, looking at that world is really intrigues me so watching medicals apparently there's like a family member of ours who's who's in there.
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Angelica Contreras: I don't know, but you know somewhere from behind, but more not guys also really good one.
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Angelica Contreras: Just anything that that Spanish related I grew up watching novellas so I watched a lot of the dahlia novellas.
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Angelica Contreras: Which ones did she do she did like.
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Angelica Contreras: or what's her name also like another suit.
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Angelica Contreras: Those types of Nova last also like the money, yes, money another Barrio Murray.
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Angelica Contreras: boswell Harrison camino was a big one, so two ladies one man that they're fighting for their we're all you know.
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Angelica Contreras: my childhood, the same premise the same drama.
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Angelica Contreras: You can catch up, you can watch one show, once a week and you'll be caught up on the shows, but that was kind of going around, and in my childhood is watching the novellas.
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Hong Lieu: And they end as well right all the novellas eventually end which is.
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Angelica Contreras: There long it's an investment.
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Hong Lieu: But it's a big difference from a soap opera soap opera just first hit for free.
585
01:05:51.390 --> 01:05:54.270
Hong Lieu: You don't see 30 years and you still be following the same people you know, like.
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Hong Lieu: I need I need that ending.
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Akil Hill: I really I mean they still young the restless is still going.
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Hong Lieu: Oh yeah.
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Hong Lieu: yeah so like yeah days of our lives and we'll have to see everyone's like oh yeah novella just like soap operas like no soap operas don't end I.
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Hong Lieu: I need some find some find some closure, you know, like that's a toxic relationship with your relationship with no closure, you know.
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Angelica Contreras: Agreed agreed.
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Hong Lieu: And I remember watching a lot of developers trying to get my Spanish better, so I watch maddie soul and stuff but.
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Hong Lieu: It was.
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Hong Lieu: still too fast, like.
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Hong Lieu: Sometimes.
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Hong Lieu: The SAP button or whatever didn't didn't really exist, like good felt like that was easy for me to learn and be following subtitles but subtitling was just not where it was so I go back sometimes now and try to try to stay up but yeah it's it's.
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Angelica Contreras: funny thing is, is that my dad still watch it from a little so who come to visit and it's like is eight o'clock time he has to be ready he's like no we gotta go on our walk before eight o'clock.
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Angelica Contreras: We have to make it for the novella like that you know that you can record it now right.
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Angelica Contreras: Okay he's like, no, no, I have to watch it when it comes on.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah let me know yeah he's he's in Mexico, right now, it kind of have a my my parents my dad and my stepmom are in Mexico for mother's day and stuff they have a nice little House over there and what their little village where my dad grew up so.
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Angelica Contreras: he's still working his novella he found a way.
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So.
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Angelica Contreras: Definitely part of part of our livelihood over here.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah.
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Hong Lieu: My mom definitely would watch Cantonese soap operas.
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Hong Lieu: I remember why she's eating lunch like to cook lunch and a while she's eating, that was a thing like 1130 1231 afternoon when.
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Hong Lieu: She do that, and then to listen to news radio what she was working, but that, like the things you take breaks for it's funny because the things that I would tell him how to prioritize because I want her to do.
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Hong Lieu: I know i'll making lunch dinner and i'll watch TV for 45 minutes a day and then i'll work okay that's all I need so I mean it was really a drive yeah.
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Hong Lieu: So those are good PICs because the end even narcos like that that culture, when you get to see peek behind the curtain, so to speak.
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Hong Lieu: Because it is part of like day to day life like even grow like you grew up in La and all that good stuff like it's part of your life design your face, because a lot of its concealed and and.
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Hong Lieu: In from view you know intentionally so being a peek behind that and see how the systems work and everything works and you kind of do see the similarities to like.
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Hong Lieu: large corporations in terms of strong arm tactics retaliation people you know holding try to hold people accountable like there's all kinds of things like that, where it's like.
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Hong Lieu: maddie everybody runs kind of similar you know, like the systems are not as different as you think we try to put them in different groups, but those tactics, they they seem to translate across.
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Hong Lieu: The street so like so it's good to be hip to that to understand like at the end of the day, that these are human kind of pursuits that get twisted in these bureaucratic structures.
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Hong Lieu: And you know, like so it doesn't show us the cto and that, because this is pretty quality quality program right there's.
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Angelica Contreras: Definitely and thankfully, the town that my family's from it's not like that.
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Angelica Contreras: So that's why I can see it in peace.
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Angelica Contreras: know that the tell my dad's from in Mexico little town near portfolio that coalesce battlements is i'm very you know small little village, with just a few thousand people I mean it's grown since.
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Angelica Contreras: Last time I was there, but it's a small little village same every time we go it's super bill have a party when outsiders come that that are from there, so.
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Angelica Contreras: The literally kill a pig and they'll they'll throw it down and I got to take my kids there.
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Angelica Contreras: A few years ago, and I was a little nervous, because my my kids unfortunately they don't they're not fluent in Spanish.
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Angelica Contreras: They understand it, because I do speak Spanish at home, but not as much as I should I should be, and so, when we took them for the first time there's something about kids and just.
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Angelica Contreras: They don't need to speak the same language as their cousins and they just got along they they they miss each other so.
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Angelica Contreras: Will will often get in touch with them, and when we go back, we get to see them still in my kids they have fond memories of going to my dad's village there and.
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Angelica Contreras: And being around their cousins and and you know, not knowing the language fully but speaking it and it translated because they came back home kind of with a new energy to learn the language like oh no, I want to be know Mike okuda a little bit more, I want to know.
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Angelica Contreras: You know more of my history and, and so my son's now in high school and he's in the Spanish class and it's like no, we have to talk Spanish all day long and so he'll he'll talk, Spanish and get through it and it's nice to see that translate to to your children to see that the kids are.
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Angelica Contreras: interested in the history.
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Angelica Contreras: Which is great.
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Akil Hill: yeah absolutely the culture.
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Angelica Contreras: The Culture culture.
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Akil Hill: Absolutely.
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Hong Lieu: Thank Thank you very much sure now with this.
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Hong Lieu: kill, you want to go you want me to go.
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Akil Hill: Oh it's up to you it's fine i'm it.
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Akil Hill: doesn't matter.
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Hong Lieu: All right, i'll go next real quick just because you can put the pressure on me to do more, do more API plus month so.
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Hong Lieu: not really not really but.
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Hong Lieu: I feel pressured so.
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Hong Lieu: This this made my PICs are two two folks i've i've just barely worked with but i've admired the work or leaders to record labels from California.
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Hong Lieu: up in the Bay there's a label called Asian man records or invite Korean Danny green many Mike Park, he was a band called skank and pickle.
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Hong Lieu: Also, you know he's he's, which is an old school punk band for the early mid 90s, he start his own label deal records put out their stuff and then deal fold, and he started Asian man records up in the Bay down in La we have lauren records run by a guy named Eric Kovacs he was in a band.
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Hong Lieu: The band that played around here called summer vacation you're playing around ventura Santa Barbara la he was also in a band called winter break and relate to him, but he started lauren records.
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Hong Lieu: And between the two of them both API plus labels, both you know doing punk rock which is kind of.
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Hong Lieu: You know something where there weren't a lot of agents, when I was growing up in punk cuz I was in you know with the hardcore punks with all the squatters and stuff like that there weren't that many Asians there.
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Hong Lieu: And even even with the modern ED pop punk kind of stuff.
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Hong Lieu: The crowds didn't really start fleshing out till very recently in the past four or five years have been a couple big artists minsky Japanese breakfast there's not a json a few Asian.
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Hong Lieu: Artists that are really broken and gotten more crowds you know more diverse crowd into the shows.
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Hong Lieu: But these these guys know my park and Aaron and lauren records and each man records, they were kind of fighting that battle when it was when there was nobody, and they were you know put out all kinds of music, I mean.
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Hong Lieu: These are my records is broken, you know bigger bands like alkaline trio and less than jake that that have crossed over.
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Hong Lieu: And they started on Asian man or a small label or records, you know Joyce manners put out stuff on only on lauren and.
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Hong Lieu: And there's just there's enough bands there but it's just for them it's all about running kind of the DIY stuff like just putting putting stuff out for people that want to put their stuff out.
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Hong Lieu: So there's a lot of small acts all the all the music is pretty good, but you know it does kind of you.
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Hong Lieu: Know rock or punk or that kind of but they put everything out and stuff out they put everything but it's just you know it's just good to see.
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Hong Lieu: I have helped them kind of find when when bands on there, and those labels need to like find a show in town.
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Hong Lieu: I have helped a couple of artists know like movies or shows library and then like you know be cooker is do I venues, I can I can I help move them sometimes but.
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Hong Lieu: I don't know them personally like that, but I do, I am proud to say i've worked through them at a certain point, to try to keep the culture movement but.
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Hong Lieu: yeah just both those labels that have mental out to me and and the fact that they're run by by.
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Hong Lieu: By Asian American folks in in cultures that are not always represented that way, as always, as always meant a lot to be to you know it's good to see people like that people.
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Hong Lieu: Like me, doing that work and actually holding it down for me because i'm a big old seller, I took.
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Hong Lieu: I took the company public sector around the Nice benefits and I booked it out of it i'm not trying to make music, but to see those guys, I mean Mike park has been hustling.
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Hong Lieu: For over 36 years running a label out of his parent's garage aaron's been doing on records about 10 years and that's I mean.
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Hong Lieu: You know you agent dog is doing that kind of entertainment work so seen him holding out for so long, had a shout them out so yeah Mike Mike.
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Hong Lieu: Asian man and then Aaron down in orange good on your put your put your record label websites in the show notes, hopefully folks go the links and buy some merge or something so yeah Thank you very much.
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Akil Hill: Nice good choice.
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Hong Lieu: But you got to keel.
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Akil Hill: When I was thinking like.
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Akil Hill: What can I, what can I do you know so i'm coming a little different in it from a different angle i'm going cookbook on today.
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Akil Hill: i'm going for this what's called recipes from an Indian kitchen because API we got to you know.
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Akil Hill: Give shots.
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Hong Lieu: He still holding it down.
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Hong Lieu: The down.
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Angelica Contreras: The movie.
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Akil Hill: stay on D, I see it, but it's called recipes from an Indian kitchen it's authentic recipes from across India.
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Akil Hill: it's really here's why I really like this cookbook, and this is the reason why I wanted suggested is because, if you like, any food.
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Akil Hill: Indian food it to me is like one of those things that are one of the type of food that it's either you have to go the restaurant or you have to know someone who who cooks it right.
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Akil Hill: So, most people don't make it at home.
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Akil Hill: But this cookbook actually is really good for people who like Indian food, who want to cook it in, or like at the beginning stage.
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Akil Hill: So that's the reason why I suggested the cookbook because you can be like like i'm not super verse although my brother in law his his mother is from India, but this cookbook super simple super easy all the ingredients is you can actually find probably relatively.
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Akil Hill: You know, at your neighborhood market, but just has it does a really great job of explaining how you can cook.
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Akil Hill: Any additions and one of my favorite dishes that we usually make it's called a spice mash eight plant and it has all the you know the traditional like coriander cumin turmeric all the traditional things that you find in Indian food.
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Akil Hill: coriander right but it's super the directions are super good super easy.
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Akil Hill: So that's my pick for the week it's it's really.
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Akil Hill: A good easy cookbook for non traditional Indian cookers you know Indian people may look at it be like that's blasphemy, but.
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Akil Hill: It but.
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Angelica Contreras: it's like I love Indian food I just celebrated a birthday, and that was my choice that's All I want I don't want to cook bring me some Indian food.
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Akil Hill: No really.
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Angelica Contreras: We don't have a lot of choices here.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah there's not a lot of choices, what are your go to this in town.
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Akil Hill: shoe i'm a flavoring I mean i'm old school, I may have been the fire yeah yeah, then I like the lamb I like the chicken core motherland and it looks pretty good there too, but yeah i'm usually flavor in the I know there's was there, one on state street on.
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Hong Lieu: isn't there a Labor flavor of India is just recently changed our ship and they kept the risky to the recipes are very similar but.
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Hong Lieu: Ownership they release get these to have that one on state street spice avenue, but they close and there's one the lower state was in India was an all in the CAFE but they switched an hour to bend Nepalese.
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Hong Lieu: So it's called a Tibetan Nepal Nepal House so they do have some Indian crossover but it's got more if you've had the if you know the difference feeling Nepalese.
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Akil Hill: You haven't been yeah.
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Hong Lieu: it's a little different in terms of spicing and stuff, but a lot of a lot of the food is still there and then delete it has masala spice.
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Hong Lieu: So they they do a Buffet, and then they do like like that, and I think that I think the chef there's I believe from Sri Lanka, but i'm not sure.
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Hong Lieu: But so it's still still pretty good it's a solid contender but flavors probably that flavor tastes like an Indian Indian mom's cooking to me like.
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Hong Lieu: The niches it's so clean and everything like yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: Honestly that's all I know I don't think i've ever tried Indian food.
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Angelica Contreras: anywhere else yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I mean.
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Hong Lieu: The thing that's missing is that representation from the regions like.
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Hong Lieu: salsa spice they do it, though, so.
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Hong Lieu: You know doses like southern.
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Hong Lieu: Indian so just just some of them are regional stuff but because the flavor is it's Punjabi style cuisine so from the north.
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Hong Lieu: But it's but it's so good and it's you know so and then and then there's like the London inflow stuff where they call it, you know where the butter chicken salad stuff like that.
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Angelica Contreras: So there's somebody with the butter, they just started with the butter chicken flavor in India.
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Angelica Contreras: which we tried some.
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Hong Lieu: yeah it's probably it's probably that thing where.
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Hong Lieu: People were looking for that name, like the chicken chicken so like well if it's not butter chicken I don't know if I could do it so.
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Hong Lieu: Yes, okay one and they only know it is better really so yeah.
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Akil Hill: i'm making pretty good butter chicken roxanne roxanne asked her ass you know, like when she was pregnant that was one of the things key make butter chicken I was making butter chicken like three times a week.
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Angelica Contreras: Is it part of the contract and have to send the recipe.
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Akil Hill: i'll get a job in a cookbook in.
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Angelica Contreras: For you Angelica.
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Akil Hill: And then the butter chicken is actually yeah I had to use a cheat code, it was I found it i'd like to.
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Hong Lieu: work.
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Akil Hill: No work.
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Akil Hill: No work, so this one does this yeah I think I sent you probably some pictures on but yeah to use the cheat code and I went to talk on your.
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phone.
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Akil Hill: it's actually really good.
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Hong Lieu: yeah we cook in the and every now and then and I noticed that once you do it the first time you'll have the ingredients once you get those ingredients, you know, like the human.
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Hong Lieu: Like you said cardamom.
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Akil Hill: You have the coriander.
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Hong Lieu: yeah garen masala.
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Hong Lieu: yeah once you have those spices, then you can start cooking and really exploring any money, but if a lot of folks don't want to go to the effort of getting those five or six it's like any regional cuisine you have to have like five or six things in your pantry from that area.
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Hong Lieu: yeah go that go in almost everything in some some combination so want to take that leap and get those five or six things, then you can kind of unlock a regional cuisine you know, five or six things yeah.
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Angelica Contreras: Mexican food has five different types of trying Chile for any sauce.
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Hong Lieu: yeah or like, if you want that MSG you get taji.
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You don't.
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Hong Lieu: ever see in our side ties email but they're like yeah it's a it's like five or six things to simulate those flavors and then then that gives you that little spin so yeah absolutely.
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Hong Lieu: But yes i'll put links to everything in the show notes, thank you to thank you and and handicap for coming on the show.
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Hong Lieu: That wraps it up for the grilling that you know all the questions we have if there's anything you want to mention anything you want to plug before we say goodbye for the for this in the crowd.
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Angelica Contreras: Thank you guys, for having me it's nice it's nice to just chatted up and not think about work for my emails for for a little while.
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Akil Hill: yeah.
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Hong Lieu: You got to think about the best part, so how you how you serve the Community.
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Hong Lieu: And how the Community is vouch for you, not only do the.
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Hong Lieu: Green he put on, but also that administrator the year award this year so.
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Akil Hill: You get that free parking with that does that come with free parking up front.
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Angelica Contreras: yeah no no just kidding.
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Akil Hill: With a nice little check that.
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Angelica Contreras: I took to Costa Rica.
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Hong Lieu: Oh, there you go.
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Hong Lieu: No more that's that's all that's all you have to say.
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Hong Lieu: it out.
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Hong Lieu: that's all you need.
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Akil Hill: yeah that's for the next show.
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will talk.
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Hong Lieu: Thank you again.
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Hong Lieu: As always, Akil and until.
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Hong Lieu: Next time y'all this was Vaquero Voices thank you take care.