Akil and Hong welcome Leslie to the show to talk about the new SBCC Dream Center and the Undocumented Student Week of Action that accompanied its opening. From there, the three discuss Leslie's journey to SBCC, some of her favorite foods and restaurants, and then some of the music that is on her playlist right now. Akil and Hong join in with their contributions highlighting Lao/Thai food in Carpinteria, Cantonese BBQ and the Lunar New Year, some favorite songs from last year, and the TV adaptation of Octavia Butler's Kindred.
Mentioned in this episode:
SBCC Dream Center - https://www.sbcc.edu/equity/dream-center/index.php
Undocumented Student Action Week - https://www.cccco.edu/Students/Support-Services/Special-population/Undocumented-Students/Undocumented-Student-Action-Week
SBCC Centers for Equity and Social Justice - https://www.sbcc.edu/equity/
Rafael Agustin - https://rafaelagustin.com/
Illegally Yours by Rafael Agustin - https://www.amazon.com/Illegally-Yours-Memoir-Rafael-Agustin/dp/153870594X
SBCC Running Start - https://www.sbcc.edu/eopscare/runningstart.php
SBCC EOPS - https://www.sbcc.edu/eopscare/
SBCC Centers for Equity and Social Justice - https://www.sbcc.edu/equity/
SBCC Foundation - https://www.sbccfoundation.org/
León, Guanajuato - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le%C3%B3n,_Guanajuato
DACA - https://www.uscis.gov/DACA
Tinga de Pollo - https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1021734-tinga-de-pollo-chicken-with-chipotle-and-onions
Red Chilaquiles with Chicken - https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1013982-red-chilaquiles-with-chicken
Santo Mezcal - https://www.santomezcalsb.com/
Flor de Maiz - https://flordemaizsb.com/
East Beach Tacos - http://www.eastbeachtacos.com/
Sam Woo BBQ - https://www.yelp.com/biz/sam-woo-barbeque-alhambra
Sham Tseng - https://www.yelp.com/biz/sham-tseng-bbq-shop-monterey-park
Char Siu - https://thewoksoflife.com/chinese-bbq-pork-cha-siu/
Roast Pork - https://thewoksoflife.com/cantonese-roast-pork-belly/
Roast Duck - https://www.thespruceeats.com/cantonese-roast-duck-694866
Lao Thai Carpinteria - https://www.laothaiusa.com/
Mariachi music - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariachi
Banda music - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banda_music
Un Verano Sin Ti by Bad Bunny - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_Verano_Sin_Ti
Fuerza Regida - https://www.billboard.com/music/latin/latin-artist-on-the-rise-fuerza-regida-8549681/
Karol G - https://www.karolgmusic.com/
Reggaeton - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggaeton
Pepe Aguilar - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_Aguilar
Yahritza y Su Esencia - https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2022-04-26/yahritza-y-su-esencia-mexican-regional-soy-el-unico-obsessed
Inseparables by Yahritza y Su Esencia featuring Ivan Cornejo - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-mtWoF8umw
Obsessed by Yahritza y Su Esencia - https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kUUkLcys64ZqXxeRx99Uk9hMIaJjFAH4U
Cyberpunk: Edgerunners - https://www.netflix.com/title/81054853
I Really Want to Stay at Your House by Rosa Walton - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4VJGNNSQnw
Kindred TV Show - https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/kindred
Kindred by Octavia Butler - https://www.octaviabutler.com/kindred
Slaughterhouse Five by Kurt Vonnegut - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/184345/slaughterhouse-five-by-kurt-vonnegut/
Janelle Monáe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janelle_Mon%C3%A1e
SBCC Dream Center Instagram -
https://www.instagram.com/sbcc_dreamcenter/
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Hong Lieu: Hello and welcome to another episode of SBCC Vaquero Voices, a podcast highlighting the unique voices that comprise our campus culture, and how we're all working together to serve our students and the community at large. As usual, I'm joined by Co-host to Akil Hill
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Akil Hill: What's good y'all!
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Hong Lieu: And today we are honored to welcome Leslie Marine, who is to the show. Leslie. Welcome, welcome, Leslie.
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Hong Lieu: So you are the what is your a coordinator director? so I am the student program adviser for the Dream Center. Yes, and and a mini celebrity on campus, because the the week, the dream center open. There was like
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Hong Lieu: news cameras in your face all day, every day, everyone trying to get interviews with you. Now that things have kind of calm down a bit. Are you getting used to kind of the day to day. And and what does that even like? I mean, what is what is it entail running the dream center? What? What's going on with all that? Let me just just fill the yeah. So the first
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Leslie Marin Juarez: week of the grand opening, you know the center is as old as I am in the in the position. so it was, to say the least.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: a very stressful but also very rewarding week.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: myself being undocumented. I think the center represents
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Leslie Marin Juarez: a lot of what I needed as a student.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: So just now, being full circle right, I remember when I was a student, they would.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: they would ask me, and we had a conversation with so we got about how once and they had said, like, what do you guys need a students and something that I had said was a center, right? A stable place where I know I can get questions answered.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and that was back in like 2016. So now fast forward to now having the center
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Leslie Marin Juarez: has been a full circle.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: And things have definitely slowed down after undocumented student week of action.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: you know. Obviously with finals and everything but it's now it's more
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Leslie Marin Juarez: in-person communications with students which has been really nice
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and meetings, but also trying to reach out to other undocumented student services on different campuses and see what are the things that have worked for them. or maybe Haven't worked for them.
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Hong Lieu: and I I imagine that's probably a big part of the process, because this is something that's kind of
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Hong Lieu: rolling out across campus is not around the same time. But, relatively speaking, this is a new thing
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Hong Lieu: for most campuses. I mean it. Is it a good feeling, I mean, do you? Do you get a lot of room to kind of improvise and put your stamp on things, and kind of cause it speaking from the voice of a student who, to kind of went through the process and and knows what they they were looking for. They needed.
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Hong Lieu: Have you been able to kind of like influence things, and and really kind of put your stamp on things or or things kind of
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Hong Lieu: send stone? And you just you just came in and just open the door, so to speak.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: No, I think that's that's also the beauty of right, the center being as old as I am in the position. is i'm really creating a program from the ground up.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and i'm making the program into what students need.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: so it's it's really nice to get able to speak to students. I know a lot of the feedback that I've been getting has been right. The financial component of things. being undocumented, you don't qualify for Federal aid
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Leslie Marin Juarez: right, or or a lot of scholarships, because they require that
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Leslie Marin Juarez: status of being born in the United States which makes students not qualify. so it's. It's been really nice, not having anything
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I guess, set on stone, but creating as as I go, and as I speak to students about what it is that they need.
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Akil Hill: Yeah, One thing I I will have to say I mean I've been in the space, and and and if you haven't been into the the dream center, I wouldn't encourage everybody to swing by. Introduce yourself to Leslie. But that space is is amazing, you know, like it feels really. There's a vibe in there that is.
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Akil Hill: that's really warm. I met I was watching. I remember when it was a a documented weekend. So the news
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Akil Hill: was basically on k it. They're showing the different dream centers. And
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Akil Hill: I got Allen, Hancock and other places other colleges, campuses. But
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Akil Hill: I when I saw ours I was like man, it's so much it's so warm in here like didn't look sterile stale. It didn't look like a kind of a classroom converted just a real welcoming space. So that's a tribute to Leslie, and kinda like putting her stamp on the space and and making it work welcoming for students.
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Akil Hill: And I will say undocumented Week was one of those weeks that
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Akil Hill: I felt real proud to be an employee at Santa Barbara City College. with different numerous events. Can you? To maybe elaborate a little bit on. You know what you guys did that during that week. Lastly, because some people may have missed out on it.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Yeah, of course. so the week began. with a keynote. speaker, who is for some? I'm sure a lot of us have watched the show. Netflix show Jane the Virgin
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Leslie Marin Juarez: but I find Augustine is actually the writer for that Netflix series which was really popular and still is. And
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I thought it would be amazing to bring him in because he is formally undocumented.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: It's really important for not only students, but also staff right to see that the possibilities are endless, regardless of status.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: his childhood, and and where he is now, it's it's really different. and it's really impactful. So that was the start of the week. I also had a resource day where I got a bunch of resources from all around campus, including financial aid Tab
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Leslie Marin Juarez: A lot of really unique resources that I think students would benefit from
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Leslie Marin Juarez: where they got the opportunity to come in and get more information about that, as well as the grand opening, which was probably the event where we had most attendees. we had over a 100 people.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: At that event I was able to get Madiacci. We had a amazing food. Come and cater so that was really successful. And it was really
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Leslie Marin Juarez: a very emotional day for me just seeing right going from the pandemic when there was no students, no staff and seeing so many people
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Leslie Marin Juarez: from all walks of life. Interact. And there was students crying. There was families crying, just listening to the music, and really feeling a sense of belonging
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Leslie Marin Juarez: so that that week to see the lease was very special.
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Hong Lieu: and and going forward now is for a student that's interested in seeking out services just just. Is it just the best course of action to stop by? Or is there a contact form on the website that we shout out, or in what's the best way to kind of get in touch with you if there are students that are kind of interested in kind of just getting using the service
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Hong Lieu: and the center.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I think right. Now. I want to shy away from appointment base, just because I already know there's already a lot of
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Leslie Marin Juarez: fear so I work on a very drop-in basis. If they are interested in services, they can either email me call me I'm very
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Leslie Marin Juarez: for meeting students where they are at
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Leslie Marin Juarez: because I know some may be parents, some, you know. Still, have that fear. so email text or in person. Monday through Friday, I'm: I'm: available.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. So in those situations I remember, like for my parents as refugees coming, it was always leaning on friends and and relatives and people who had gone through certain processes before, so hopefully that word gets out in the in the streets, so to speak, to oral tradition, or the just word of mouth gets around, and and people hear the word like, hey! Stop by.
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Hong Lieu: There's a lot of cool stuff going on there, and and there's there there there to help so great, Great David on campus great service to promote. And thank you for coming on the show again. So.
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Akil Hill: yeah, thank you so much
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Akil Hill: motivating and
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Akil Hill: hilarious. He was so funny, just watching him speak, and really, you know, capturing his story, his journey, and making it palatable to
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Akil Hill: to us all, and so I remember he. There was a book signing right. Lastly, they had. He had signed some books, and
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Akil Hill: i'm still I haven't I Haven't read it mine yet. I'm gonna be transparent on that. But i'm hoping, you know. Maybe we could, you know, somehow, some way, you know, get a few people that have yet to start reading it and reading it together, and kind of discussing it because he was. He was absolutely funny.
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Akil Hill: I enjoyed my time with him so
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Akil Hill: legally yours we'll have to get that illegally yours. We we have to get down there so notes so people can, you know, Check that out as well?
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Leslie Marin Juarez: And I still have a couple of copies available in the dream Center? So if we have staff or students that are interested in getting their hands on one.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: They're completely free. So just swing by, and you guys can pick up a book.
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Akil Hill: shout out to the foundation for that, right? I was.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, I definitely have to do that. And and just just to add on to what you'll see earlier, the center center for equity and social justice in the campus center. with your presence stream center, emoji, and just the just the whole center. The vibe. There is just.
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Hong Lieu: It's really nice, like all the events that they all have done over the years. And
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Hong Lieu: and I mean, I know I know you're kind of new to that space, but just to just feel so lived in and just it's just a great place to be right now. So if you all haven't had a chance to stop by the center.
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Hong Lieu: whether it's for the Dream Center or Moja, any other services, or just to go do a program out there. I encourage you all to get out there. I mean it's very inviting. They always have drinks and snacks and coffee, and now they I saw like soup broth packets when I was in there the other day. So
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Hong Lieu: they got it going on yeah instant fu in like a like a tea look like a tea bag, but it's like instant fu, and you put in a cup of like oh, man, the future is now, you know, like we don't have jet packs. We're not flying cars, but we have instant fu soup packets and air Friars that's all I need right? So we we're getting there. So
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Hong Lieu: But yeah, Segway Leslie.
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Hong Lieu: What brought you the Sbcc. If you could just go in your your You know your path here a little bit. I know you were you mentioned you were a student? but if you just want to kind of
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Hong Lieu: kind of shine a line on what brought you what brought you this way.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Yeah, of course. So I started attending Santa Barbara City College back in 2,016.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Originally that was not my plan. a little bit before that when I was in high school.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: because it was something I grew up with my parents right.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: telling me about the importance of of education and how much opportunities could come from it. So my plan was to work
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Leslie Marin Juarez: because I knew my parents couldn't afford to put me through school.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I have an older sister who is just a year older than me, so she was already in college, and I knew that was going to be a very tough financial
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Leslie Marin Juarez: running start, which is now a student program advisor. Alicia Sanchez, who came and talked about the program and talked a little bit about the promise
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Leslie Marin Juarez: her conversation that she had, I was the first student to go up to her after, and said, how do I? How do I sign up? She gave me? I remember, a little orange paper to fill out, which was an interest card. I filled that out, and she reached back out to me.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: And then yeah, it kind of just took off from there. I did the running start program met a lot of amazing
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Leslie Marin Juarez: so i'm very thankful for the Eops program. and the foundation from providing me with that support
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and just creating right that that environment that's welcoming to students. So I feel like growing up.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: knowing that you're undocumented, but also not being open about it with your friends or your teachers.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: because you didn't know that. How how people were going to react to that and feeling the sense of always being in other, or you know.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I believe it was 2,017. I started working first in the Eops department as a student worker, as a peer mentor providing support
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I started working with the Equity Department as an event Coordinator.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: And then during that time I was a full time student, obviously, so I couldn't commit as much time to event. Planning takes a lot of time so trying to navigate both of those things
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Leslie Marin Juarez: what an impact it made for me. But I I want other students now, right going through the dream center, going through all these different spaces to have just
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Hong Lieu: And and it's great the fact that you actually lived it, because a lot of folks, you know you can. You can learn about a process. You can learn all a lot about kind of the workflow things how things should go. But but when you've lived it, you see the things, the little wrinkles that come in here and there.
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Hong Lieu: the the the little, the little nuances of actually going to the process, seeing where folks get get tripped up, seeing where folks get discouraged at what part of the process could be modified a little bit. So it's it's really great that
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Hong Lieu: you're the you, the person here doing this for us, because we need more folks that have actually kind of lived the experience like. I know when I worked in private sector there are a lot of folks that would, you know. You can come out with a masters in in business administration, and then you can quickly become a supervisor Vice President. But then, when you're in the job.
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Hong Lieu: it just doesn't click. But having someone like you that has been through it. If someone comes to you for help, you could say, hey, I I did this, and not only did I do this, but I saw the hope you saw the whole process through you. What you know. You transferred you to all these things.
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Hong Lieu: and and having that grasp of the entire process really kind of helps you get help those students on the ground level, because you can say, okay, I I kind of was like this, or even the folks that you have. No, you know the frame of reference, because everyone's experience is so different. Even then
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Hong Lieu: you could say Well, when I did it. It was like this. But you know this: this might work better for you, and but just having that contacts is so important, it's it's really so important, and i'm grateful that you that you're here in this role here at Sbcc. For sure.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and I love that you brought that up because something that I've also learned. Right is a lot of the people that do work are the college are Sbcc. Alumni, and I think that's a beautiful thing, because students
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Leslie Marin Juarez: get to see right what that looks like.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: The the different opportunities that come after. right. You navigate Santa Barbara City College. You go elsewhere, but you somehow always find your way back because of the connections. and just I think the the culture on our campus is really beautiful.
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Akil Hill: Yeah.
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Akil Hill: I mean I I would think I mean from like listening to that. I'm like what I what I think about is is just the richness, right? And so the richness that you that is obtained from being in this space when you're 18,
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Akil Hill: in a different space. that's that. that can be understated versus, you know, just you know, you know, while I mean, I think people bring different things to the job. But
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Akil Hill: when you grow up and you're physically on a canvas as a student. And then you return as a full-time employee. It means something different. It. Just does.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: You know
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Hong Lieu: it. It's something like as as an old head looking back on it like it, it's. It's one of those things where, like
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Hong Lieu: community college just makes so much sense to my 40 year old brain. But I remember as a 1718 year old getting in a high school like I like when I was in La, even like we had Pcc. I was like, oh, man, I'm not going to Pcc. I'm gonna go try to do a 4 year or whatever. But in i'd say it's like I would have been so much better served going to community college, and because the resources are not only there in your face
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Hong Lieu: like at a 40 institution they have. They probably have an equal number of services, but they were. They were very well hidden. They're they're They're like over in the other side of campus, and you never. I never interfaces any of the services that would have helped me so much. We're here. They almost like, Be over the head with it.
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Hong Lieu: and, like you say you, you better. You know you have to, and it, and when you do, you just it's just you're richly rewarded for it, I mean. And beyond that here at Fcc. Especially, there's just there's this intangible essence of of like coming here to soaking up being on campus like being a part of this
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Hong Lieu: kind of organization, this culture like there, there's an intangible there that really does draw you back, and it's maybe it's just because it's by the beach, and it's beautiful and amazing. But beyond that it's just like the people here. Everybody cares so much. The students are really kind of
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Hong Lieu: on it, too. I mean that yeah, of course you got you got. You got people that want to party. But hey, there's nothing wrong with that, either. So but but overall like like, you know, this this place. There is something special about it, and i'm sure that's true for every campus. But the fact that we have so many folks that that came here students
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Hong Lieu: and came back or worked here before in some capacity left and came back. I mean, there, there's obviously something that's pulling it back. And and just to be a part of that, I mean, yeah, it's it's it's cool. Very cool.
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Akil Hill: One thing I think you know i'm kind of curious to hear your thoughts a little bit on about it is this, and you alluded to a little bit earlier about kind of normalizing.
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Akil Hill: You know the the of being undocumented.
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Akil Hill: You maybe can you talk a little bit about?
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Akil Hill: You know some of the feelings and some of the concerns that students have that are undocumented. so that way, When you know people
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Akil Hill: have interactions with students that are in document, you know, they can feel like they're comfortable having to carry on a conversation with them.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: So,
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Leslie Marin Juarez: being undocumented, I think for me. For the first time
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I can't change it. I just have to learn to navigate
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I will have to go back to. You know my home country, which is, you know, in one Aquato, Mexico. I was born there. even though I I've been here in the Us since I was one. i'm more. I feel like i'm more from here than I am from from where I was born right, and that's why I a lot
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Leslie Marin Juarez: a lot of students that I talked to right. We deal with this. I like to say, Nivia Akini, that yeah, right. You're not from here, but you're also not from there, and it's dealing with that constantly.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: you know that it's part of your culture. You know that it's part of your story.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I can't apply for it. But they. Some don't even know that there's such thing as like a dream act, application, right?
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I don't have a social security number. What what are the opportunities that I have? They just automatically assume? Right? They see that, and they're like, I don't. I don't want to talk about it.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and it's it's actually more common than not, and it was for myself, too.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: like I mentioned. Sbcc. Was the first time where I actually felt comfortable enough, being open to other people and letting them know. You know. Hey, this is my situation.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I feel like for a lot of students. They grow up right like Raphael, who was a keynote speaker that we brought during a documented student week of action, who go through life, and Don't even know that they're undocumented right because their parents are trying to shelter them from feeling right how I felt like the other
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Leslie Marin Juarez: a very understood ear to have for me. It it didn't look the same, because I knew that I was undocumented, but growing up a lot of the times. My parents were like Don't don't tell anyone because there's gonna be consequences, so I I never told anyone. I only a handful of my friends new
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. And and and you can't really emphasize how difficult it is just that the practical aspect of it not not having access to certain pieces of financial aid, because, like I said, as as the son of refugees like.
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Hong Lieu: it was very difficult for me growing up, and to get, you know, get just to find that path and get to a point where I was able to go to college and do all this and that. But the same time, you know, the there was a refugee status that my parents had. They. They were resident aliens. They were able to get access to all these services and things like we were on welfare growing up
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Hong Lieu: It. It's just it's the I mean just. I just know you, you know you heart heart of a champion, you know, like you had to. You have to really grind it out. You have to really work
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Hong Lieu: it's it's awesome, I mean very, very, very amazing, Story Just to get where you are and just and just the fact to be able to go back now and help other people kind of traverse the path, because, you know, you, you know, firsthand.
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Hong Lieu: not not just. I mean it. It's hard. Yeah, because it just like be counting a story is one thing verbally. But those days, those weeks, those months, I mean and outs the day and day out grind of what that was like.
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Hong Lieu: And and yeah, just to I tell people that all the time like, yeah, i'm the son of a RAM son of refugees. We grew up, pour him home with a sweatshop work, and my dad worked in a restaurant. But I still had it pretty easy compared to a lot of people I know who's whose paths, you know in this country were were different, and and they didn't get access to certain things, you know, based on certain circumstances.
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Hong Lieu: and I just wish that that wasn't a thing. I wish I wish that we didn't. Look at at those kind of statuses, and once you're here, we we need to give everyone that kind of shake. I mean, that's a different conversation for another day. But the same time it's just yeah, I I I mean.
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Hong Lieu: I'm in all that that you know, because I I know what I had to go through. I know how many opportunities I had that certain days. If I didn't do a certain thing, i'd be on a totally different path, and it could be all different kinds of upside down for me. So, just knowing that so many folks are going through that day and day out, and how hard it is like
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Leslie Marin Juarez: And I think something important right to to to to discuss, to right or the all the misconceptions I feel like the term being undocumented, is used very broadly.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Yes, I am undocumented, but I am also a Docker recipient. Not everyone has the ability to to be a Docker recipient, and for those that don't know Daca stands for deferred action for early childhood arrival.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: So that was the law that came into place.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: so i'm privileged in that sense, but I know that before I had any of that like I wasn't documented. So I I grew up
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Yes, I want to go to school. But how am I going to afford it? I know my Parents Aren't going to be able to afford it.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: to remain hopeful, right? And I think just having this space open. and saying, okay, maybe you can't get a job now. But let's let's look at some internships that you may qualify for where you can get paid through like a scholarship or a stipend right? and i'm i'm trying to start that
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Hong Lieu: Like, what is the what is the root here of? Why, you were denying these services, you know he had the the the big thing about the the truck drivers being able to get licenses a few years ago, and everything
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Hong Lieu: you know, in the grand scheme of things. This is couch, cushion money to half of y'all people that are so gently against this stuff like, what? What is the what is the real rationale here like? If you're gonna have this conversation. Go ahead and and
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Hong Lieu: talk. You talk and and and just put your ignorance on the public, and just say it. It's because you're racist. But you know.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: But again another, another, another larger conversation for another day. I'm sure. So yeah, thank thank you, Leslie, for for shining a line on what brought you here? We're going to Segue now into our next section. good Eaton.
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Hong Lieu: So so if you want to kick us off with
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Hong Lieu: something you've eaten, whether or eaten or prepared. You know you yourself at a restaurant recently, or or growing up anything you want to share with us food wise
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I am a foodie. Let me start off by seeing that I love food. Who is my love language for sure? and I think right. Being Latina, a lot of my culture
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Leslie Marin Juarez: is is food, right cooking, and family and cooking for for all of these events, not even like to celebrate anything. Just say right of my family is very used to just throwing God in a Sabbath. Saturday is a celebration right? It's just like there's nothing there's it's no one's party. Let's just do a so all my life.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I've loved cooking growing up. I I used to help my mom and my grandma prepared dishes. I'm very thankful, because now I I will not start
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Leslie Marin Juarez: typical Mexican dishes is thinga i'm not sure if you guys have tried it. But for those who don't know it's a very typical Mexican dish which is shredded. Pick in
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Leslie Marin Juarez: They're all right. They're right with you know cheese on the top served with like a side of beans or a lot of people also put like shredded chicken or chy sole, or eggs on the side. so I really enjoy cooking those dishes.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I really enjoy Santa Monica, and for the maise.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Are we able to talk about drinks here before? Okay. So I really enjoy the Margarita vayner, which is a green apple cucumber and Basil margarita with lime juice and
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Leslie Marin Juarez: green savicha that has pomegranates, green apple, and like a green sauce. I don't like fun. Fact, I don't like fish, but I love that Soviet. I don't know what it is. It doesn't taste like fish to me.
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Hong Lieu: That's a good pick right there, because that's a that's a nice little like like local pick where you wouldn't like to to go check it out. But they used to have that like triple play, or whatever with that they give you a token.
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Hong Lieu: Because, yeah, I think it that all the time. But they did. Yeah, they there's some kind of like there was like a break at some point where they were like so closely under the wine where you get to tokens to. But you have to talk with it still legit. Yeah, that place has been so many different things, you know. I remember when it was Norton's for their for a minute.
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Hong Lieu: I've I remember there was another Mexican, but he, speech has been pretty consistent. Stay there. Yeah, yeah, so they they They've made that place their own. And like I said, when they had the. It was a true marriage where you could get 3 tacos and go to the dining cadence, hit a couple of fast balls. That was nice, but still just worth heading there, because it's one of the few places with like
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Hong Lieu: reasonable parking, because most of the time you can't get a parking spot. I mean, there's times that there's like random practice. But for the most part there is parking there. And yeah, and then Florida, my East and Santa Masala. You know the family. I think they're both
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Hong Lieu: but their Santa Moscow is where the same owner. But yeah, yes, and the Florida. My East has has a lot of on the coast. They're right on the cabrio, and they have a lot of yeah there. The cuisines that the menus are different enough that it's worth trying, All of them, you know, like Santa Monica, Lasagabase, and Florida may there some overlap
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Hong Lieu: with the dishes, but everything's different enough, and just they do a great job just setting like a nice dining room atmosphere. So it's it's it's a it's a really nice place to like. Celebrate an occasion. You know it's good for a casual meal to, but it feels it's like it's like a special occasion restaurant, too. So it's those are all like that. Good good pick for sure.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Yes.
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Hong Lieu: lunar. New Year is coming up as of this recording day. It's it. A New Year's Eve is tomorrow, and then the New Year is actually on Sunday. So
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Hong Lieu: my my pick for this week. just just some of the the Cantonese kind of barbecue restaurants I grew up with down in la like Samuel Barbecue, sham, saying, and stuff. But the roast duck, the chasse you, which is the barbecue pork.
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Hong Lieu: pork. I know you're not gonna do his kill, but there's real pork with a crispy crackman skin. It's like a a a 3 item combo at most places with rice, and it's just like a little homestyle meal. It's not necessarily what we for the New Year. But just when I think about growing up, that was like
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Hong Lieu: one of my favorite meals, because it was just simple. It's just like, you know, 3 types of meat with rice.
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Hong Lieu: I mean it. It it suits me well because it's not veggies. And i'm, you know
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Hong Lieu: to unhealthy diet. Wise. But it's just I was. I was trying to think about like, you know, for the for the New Year. What what food should I highlight like we were talking about you, Noodles, for a long life and dumplings for wealth, because they look like money, but that's not the stuff that we grow up with like in the like. When I think about it, it's really all the homey, the comfort food. So
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Hong Lieu: So yeah, that's that's it's really my go to right there. but I did. Yeah, just highlighting the the the the New Year coming up. And and you know
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Hong Lieu: like most of the folks that immigrated over came around the same time as my parents, You know, around the late eighties. You know the early eighties, you know, when I was born.
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Hong Lieu: You know. It's been 40 some odd years since that happened.
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Hong Lieu: So a lot of the things that came over with my parents like they had a lot of things built in from there from the motherland where they came from in. In this case, Vietnam. But just for folks that came over a lot of those, those the things from the the motherland came with them.
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Hong Lieu: And now, as the generations are shifting as the as the kids that they had or getting older. The some of the traditions are changing like my mom is still all like my mom is uneducated. Can't read it right in any language. So she relied a lot on relatives and stuff to help her out.
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Hong Lieu: and a lot of those fortune tellers are aging out, and they're they're going, you know. They're They're either dying or something else is happening.
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Hong Lieu: really kind of a an important part of my life growing up where we made any important decision. We had to ask the fortune teller to you had to bring like an offering. Ask about like. When I bought my house I had to ask the for to tell. My mom would go and ask, but
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Hong Lieu: it's just one of those those you know the customs and stuff that we're a little more ubiquitous even in the La Area. I mean up here. It's a little less common, because there's not as many Asian folks around here, but even in a way that where there's a lot of Asian folks, it is that kind of generational shift, and it just when I was thinking about the food. I was even grown up. And that's kind of what
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Hong Lieu: like. When I was thinking about the food I was growing up, I was also thinking about a lot of things that we did as a family or my parents would do, or I would help my mom do this, and then, and
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Hong Lieu: and a lot of those things are kind of shifting. And and as as we become, you know, more ingrained in American culture as I simulate more. And and this is that I just think about
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Hong Lieu: for those fortune tellers in this world where you know we where you don't need to pass the spears for that kind of stuff. You just do it, you know, like Yolo, right? So
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Hong Lieu: I don't know I really go anywhere with that. But
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Hong Lieu: I just wanted it. Yeah, so i'll put. I'll put up a link show notes for both recipes to create
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Hong Lieu: kind of the candy's barbecue stuff, because you know it's called Canton's barbecue. But there's not really grill involved. Most of it's oven
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Hong Lieu: most of it's, you know, just stuff you could do in an in a regular, you know, at home. So i'll put some recipes up in the show notes. And yeah, Happy New Year, those that celebrate
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Akil Hill: Yeah, Happy New Year.
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Akil Hill: I i'm gonna go. I'm i'm gonna keep it on the agent. Theme. I'm going local. I'm actually Carpenter, that's where I I live in.
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Akil Hill: I'm gonna go there. They just open up a new loud thai restaurant. and so the first time I went there I I wasn't really that impressed, but I I gave it another shot.
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Akil Hill: and it's since been back multiple times after I gave it another shot. So I think they kind of. They kind of straighten it out, you know. Sometimes when you go when the restaurant is like brand new, you know. I mean, there's a lot of ring wrinkles. I need to be kind of ironed out, and they've done an amazing job at at that. But some of you know
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Akil Hill: or they have a garlic pepper a garlic, pepper sauce, and you can, you know? Choose your your different type of meat either be a beef
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Akil Hill: it's really cool. One of my favorite things is like, You know what I enjoy when I go there is, you just see everyone in the kitchen like it so full on like whole entire family business. and everyone's there, you know. The first time I went was like on the weekend.
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Akil Hill: I think the great, the Grandkids or the great Grandkids were there. They were little. They're running up and down the restaurant. They're outside. They're inside it. Just felt like you were really in someone's home, you know, and so that's always a good sign for me. you know what I like to. You know. Some people like
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Akil Hill: you know the fancier things, and I I do, too. Sometimes I guess I can be Booji as well, but
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Akil Hill: I I feel like when it comes to eating. And and we talked about connecting and and food and bringing people together. th this spot definitely has that feel. So that's my pick for the week. Allow Thai restaurant that's in Carpenteria.
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Akil Hill: I, for you know, Tom, we'll put in the show notes, but it's over on the side where Uncle Chan's restaurants at and rudy's on that kind of side of this of this strip. Mall: but yeah, do yourself a favor of the tie. T's real good.
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Akil Hill: I was just thinking earlier, when when I was listening to you guys talk about
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Akil Hill: like 5 years ago. No one, or maybe no one, was even eating, eating bobo or drinking Bobo. Now it's just like
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Akil Hill: and again, that's one of those things that you know. I'm grateful for to be able to live in a in a country that has those
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Akil Hill: I think that other things that are beloved to people people in their culture, you know, like we talk about the Chili killas, and I remember the first time I I it was like a life changing event when I ate those and you know, just being able to
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Akil Hill: experience that, and I will actually go a step further and say
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Akil Hill: a lot of it's where we live, I mean. I spent some time in the you know, in the midwest, when I was in elementary school, I wasn't getting into the case. I wouldn't be getting any thai food like being able to to to be in California. we just take these things kind of for granted. so.
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Akil Hill: But yeah, that's my pick, and i'll just i'll stop there. Get you some, some, some loud Thai food. Don't forget the large salad, either.
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Hong Lieu: It it's a great pick, because yeah carpenter. Yeah, they have the one Thai restaurant that Bangkok's I am, I think it is. And then they have Uncle Chan. This place used to be the Vdi's place for ever more, or whatever it was, or
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Hong Lieu: they rotate this, and and it's just nice having to allow element to it. There's not it's not a there's not a heavily like a lot of loud dishes on there, but they do do like a loud style for that I have. That was pretty good, and like just having that piece in there to get that recognition of, like.
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Hong Lieu: Thailand is not, is is there? But there, there's a lot of neighboring countries. It allows Cambodia, and all those cuisines like. If you ever in another area, you end up going to Long Beach, having Cambodian cuisine, or going somewhere, having loud cuisine, there's a lot of crossover, you know, like you know, Vietnam, where we're similar ingredients, and just it's. It's similar ingredients, but just little twists on it. You know Mexico, Mexico has that a lot with the regional, the regional cuisines that are inherent in in different
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Hong Lieu: areas of the country to where it's it's nice to kind of get that lesson, that geography lesson through food and that cultural appreciation through food. So it's. Yeah, i'm glad that they put that little shout out for, because there there there is a decent loud population in California and and and throughout the country, so just to have that little shout out for folks that you know, like when you're just Google, it may be driving by Googling
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Hong Lieu: and like, oh, my God! This restaurant, this Thai food and laugh. But we should definitely stop by, you know, like it's all those things where it's. I I definitely appreciate it so it it
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Hong Lieu: definitely great great pick. I'll put in the show notes.
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Hong Lieu: Thank you. Akil.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. segue. Now to higher learning our culture section.
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Hong Lieu: So, Leslie, if you want to kick us off movie music book, TV, anything, video game anything that kind of moved to you throughout your life or recently that you want to share with us. We'd be happy to hear it and
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I think for me. Music has always been a huge part of my culture, and anything that I do right.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: A lot of the the parties and gatherings that I went to, or like just events right learning about about where I was born. was listening and watching Madhyi music.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: right. A lot of the
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Leslie Marin Juarez: beautiful dresses and just listening to. Yes, Spanish music. But you know you can go anywhere from Bamba to bad Bunny. I know we're talking about this a little bit yesterday. Hong so I think I think for me it'd be music
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Leslie Marin Juarez: because it it doesn't matter what mood i'm in, I can definitely find a song that that can match the mood. So I would definitely say, music
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Akil Hill: would be my pick.
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Akil Hill: you know, most recently listen to our our last play. What W. What would that be?
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Hong Lieu: You would definitely find some bad buddy in there. you! That's the album of the year right there. This we missed me with the bad buddy. The features he had the Maria that that track with the Maria's so good I there's not a skip on that album. There's no skips on that album. But okay, go on.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: There's there's definitely some of that. I've been listening to what's Saudi Arabia, which is a a regional group
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Leslie Marin Juarez: What else? Carol? G:
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Leslie Marin Juarez: So also one
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Leslie Marin Juarez: yeah, a lot of like that I don't, but also also regional music. So
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Leslie Marin Juarez: a group of the Limited we got any of that going on up in there or not not right now. No. What about the rock and Espany? Oh, no cafe to Cuba, or you know the I've listened to so much of that growing up when my mom would like on full glass. So I had a lot of that train, my childhood, so I
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Leslie Marin Juarez: I think right now I try to keep that off my playlist, because I hear it all the time when I go visitor to her house.
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Akil Hill: You know that's such a thing, though. Right? I just was thinking about how we should do something that centering around childhood clean up Saturday clean up. J. Because everyone has that in their culture I remember certain songs. Luther Band was always on on a Saturday
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Hong Lieu: juicy fruit was always being played on on the Saturday. So that's a real thing.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, My parents are just listening like that, like the cant needs like opera music. So yeah, I don't know if that helps with the cleaning. So unless it's just had Kare the new way, because, you know, when you live in East Delhi, like I said, you got the Holy Trinity, the the the Smith's kier, and the Peshmo. So yeah.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: for for my mom she played a lot of I don't know if you guys know who he is, but his name's.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Oh, you know. One day i'm going to meet him one day. I'm going to meet him on my mom, just give it up. The music ain't that good. But if you like it that's fine.
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Akil Hill: I mean, and and being around here, there's a good chance. She won't. You don't go to a show, you know you, you know. So yeah, i'm sticking up for mom on this man. Maybe she will. I'm hoping Mom is not here to defend herself. I'm taking Mom's side, she's going to meet him
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Hong Lieu: All right. How many you got for us
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Hong Lieu: Spanish music. yeah, it's a I'm probably too old to be the scene of this, because I think the lead singer. She might be like 18 now, or the oldest member of the bands like 20 something. But
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Hong Lieu: they they they have this crossover sound I mean, I was gonna i'm i'm, i'm a little bit less yesterday, but you know there wasn't really like a song on the summer conversation, and I didn't really have like a song of the summer this summer, but in the fall I was. I mean that that's
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Hong Lieu: they did a song with Ivan Cornayho. It's called in my pronunciation is terrible, because the thing about that band is they? They came up, I think they blew up off of doing like a Youtube cover of an Ivy Cornell song he's from. He's from Riverside, so he's like a socal guy, too.
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Hong Lieu: So they yeah, Exactly. So like, yeah, I'm: i'm too old to the head to be trying to be into this stuff people are looking like. Why are you trying to be cool? I'm not i'm not. I just like good music, you know. So. But I I I will say that's all in separate. I mean it. It kind of is a full circle moment for them, because
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Hong Lieu: they came up covering Ivan Cornell, and they kind of blew up. I've been. They have their song soil the unicol, and they Hello! It is my jam off that easy They did. But
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Hong Lieu: in step. But now this is really like the synthesis of the sound where it brings a full circle, and I like to kind of it's like a a back and forth with with male and female vocals. It's got that cordial sound with the guitars and everything but
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Hong Lieu: the vocals are really like hit me with in my email heart, you know, like I have, I have an email that I group of punk, rocket and stuff, and they they They have this fusion of, because, you know, put those and those kind of songs like the the band, the songs
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Hong Lieu: I mean. People talk. People talk about evil music, because it's emotional. But all music is emotional. How? I mean how many the percentage of music that is love songs in this world it's. It's like over 50, and probably closer to 78. So you can't call that music email. We we can just say it's a love song. And these these love songs are timeless, and you know it's young people singing, but i'm i'm down with it.
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Hong Lieu: and it's just it's just really really good. I mean that i'll put a link to their ep of the show notes they played in la like
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Hong Lieu: last April or 8, and I missed it, so i'm hoping they come out on it'll be a way bigger venue. And I like I said, I stick out like a sore thumb when I go to these shows. I saw Carla Morrison at the Greek last last summer, and it was looking like who is faker out here? But what can you do, man? The heart wants with the heart wants. So I I
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Hong Lieu: I was gonna go out, you know. So but yeah, so i'll. I'll put link to that in the show notes, and then my other song, Big song. I was listening to a lot this. This past fall was there was an anime on Netflix based on cyberpunk, which is a video game.
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Hong Lieu: And they took music from the video game for the anime.
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Hong Lieu: And it's a song called: I really want to state your house by this girl, Rosa Walton. She's part of a group called let's eat Grandma. It's a play on grandma. I mean to play on grammar. It's not actually like a cannibalism thing. It's just because, you know, like with the comma there. But yeah, so it's song. I really want to save your house the anime. If people are in anime it's pretty good
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Hong Lieu: if you're not in anime, it's probably not going to win you over, because there are like there. There are a lot of the classic anime tropes there like it's really hypervent there's random gratuitous nudity. There's like there's a character called a lowly character which is, looks like a child, but it is like a sexualized adult. So there's a lot of stuff if you're not in the enemy, or whatever the culture it could be off putting. But it's one of those things where like.
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Hong Lieu: If you have been watching at me for a while, you just kind of like roll with the punches, and kind of like soak in the animation and stuff. It's a really good animate, but the song is just like it's another one of those like love songs that really kinda tugs them a hard string. So those those 2 were in heavy rotation.
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Hong Lieu: and I will put a link to both. I really want to see your house by Rosa Walton. And yet it is, too, since yeah, the entire catalogue is worth listening, but that especially. That's on with Ivan Courtney Hill.
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Akil Hill: Well, i'm gonna go what I've been really into. I just completed watching
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Akil Hill: on Hulu. It's a series call kindred. It's based off of a Octavia butler's so they did the adaptation. They did season one just finished it. I think it's around 7 episodes. it's
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Akil Hill: I would tell people like you have to watch it. It's brilliant, you know it's based off of, you know, like the book kindred, and and she, Octavia Butler, is just an an amazing story within herself. just you know she's actually grew up in Pasadena. went to community college. was born in like
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Akil Hill: wasn't a thing like really, just a turn center head of the curve has written multiple books. and just just a a true visionary, and you know she since has passed. I think she passed back in like oh, 6.
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Akil Hill: But I was really
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Akil Hill: please, with how they did the season one of kindred. it's basically about this woman who time travels between.
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Akil Hill: You know, this our time like 2,023 or back into slavery.
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Akil Hill: And so so 1 min she's here and then and the next minute she's back and just really as someone who's black really just thinking about that concept
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Akil Hill: of of that. Well, she's up showing up to these plantations
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Akil Hill: as herself in 23.
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Akil Hill: But the time that she's in. Everyone sees her as a slave. and she's trying to basically put this mystery together. and searching for her mother and her mom. Also, I don't want to give it too much away, but it's so. That's kind of like.
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Akil Hill: you know. I'm gonna stop there. I'll just stop there. I don't give it away. But that is something I if you have who your first, if you're looking for something to watch definitely check that out. Or, more importantly, we all know the books are better than
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Akil Hill: the the the shows or the movies. So kindred Octavia Butler absolutely brilliant
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Akil Hill: piece of art that she has poured out
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Akil Hill: for us this so ahead of the time. So check that out you you won't. Be disappointed!
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Hong Lieu: Shout out to Octavia Butler, not only alumnus of a Pcc. Passing City College off of Cal State Delay, so she's la so so counter, and through, and a a Titan Titan of Science Fiction in terms of not just Science Fiction, but representation in Science Fiction, because up until October, and you know, so there's a few others, but like
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Hong Lieu: but Octavia Butler, she a lot of of of Afro Futurism, a lot of a lot of things like that rest on her shoulders in terms of relay the groundwork for all these things. Kindred is just.
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Hong Lieu: It reminds me a lot of slaughterhouse 5 in terms of the you know. The the characters unstuck in time, but just the way she plays with time travel. It's a very grounded story. It's not this fantastical Science fiction, you know. Narrative of like, you know, all this stuff, but the the she has a little flourish here and there. It's just it's just a a wonderful book. It's it's a great book. I haven't seen the show yet, but I will definitely check it out. But
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Hong Lieu: But yeah, that's that's yeah.
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Akil Hill: you know 1 one other thing that's so interesting, too, is when you know we talk about people who are visionary and and who are kind of like
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Akil Hill: out, you know, ahead of the curve.
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Akil Hill: And then you start looking a little bit into their lives. And one thing that you know, I was looking into Octavia Butler, and and
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Akil Hill: it's really interesting. It's always the circumstances around them that causes them to go to a place that is so far out on the margin. Right? So just thinking a little bit about what she was experiencing going up in a segregated place
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Akil Hill: and just wasn't didn't really see yourself as
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Akil Hill: it's important. So since you started reading and developing a love for that
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Akil Hill: and writing. And and then at that time people are like, you know, black people don't. Do that? You know what I mean. and then to incorporate like just that Sci-fi lens. This is absolutely just. I I can't even
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Akil Hill: what was going on you know inside of her soul, you know, and it's it's, just, you know, and
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Akil Hill: it's really interesting how we're in 23, and we're
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Akil Hill: you know we need her works, and it's just like man.
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Akil Hill: This was written when in the seventies. I think she will kindred like in around 75, 76, and then here we are in 23 like reading, and it's a so still relative, you know. Yes, and and the fact that they've decided to make a TV shot of it shows you how much
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Hong Lieu: you can mine from how rich her work was, you know, in terms of she. She contrasts the the time travel going back to the past, you know, with with the current her current life in the seventies. I don't know if they've updated it to be a modern taken, so it's a modern take. Okay, because yeah, because at the time she was contrasting the the the life of the you know, 1,800 or whatever to the modern 1,900 seventys life, and just like the the things that were the same and things that were different and just her life. You know her personal life
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Hong Lieu: was one where she felt a little bit like an outcast growing up. Of course you know. Why would you blame her? And she found her. She found her tribe, so to speak. She found solace at the library, so she would go library. She would read, she would practice writing, and then from there she started workshop stuff, and then she just, you know. But she made her own path.
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Hong Lieu: and it's kind. It's it's a great, it's a really great pick, because we we talk about making your own path and finding your way and overcoming adversity. And and yeah, she's she's
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Hong Lieu: she's a I mean, I think of genomics now, with all of her stuff that she's been doing, how great, how prolific she's been! And and genomone is, absolutely stands on the shoulders of of a TV about her in terms of bringing that kind of feature 6 plant to to like the the kind of stories that she wants to tell. And then so yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Great pick a keel. Thank you very much. Great Pix. All great things, Leslie. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time to be on the show today.
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Hong Lieu: It was an honor to have you before we before we say goodbye. Anything else any party words any anything you want to share with the listeners before we let you go Anything coming up down the pipe, for during the spring semester.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: Yeah. So I put a couple events together for the first couple weeks, so next week Since we do have the students coming back, I will be doing a collaboration with Emoji as well to do a welcome fest for students.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: So we'll be providing food. if they have any last minute questions like where to find their class.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: All that good stuff.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: They can stop by. It's completely on a dropping basis.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: So we're just gonna be providing support for the first week. we have a study abroad. Workshop
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Leslie Marin Juarez: that's also
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Leslie Marin Juarez: coming up.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: And yeah, a lot. A lot more events during the semester. If students are interested in attending any of them.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: They'll definitely be seen flyers on our social media
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Leslie Marin Juarez: on the Dream Center, Instagram
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and as well as as the Newsletter that I that I send out pretty regularly to students.
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Hong Lieu: I will get links to the Dream Center, Instagram on our show notes.
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Akil Hill: Thank you again, Leslie, for taking the time
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Akil Hill: that hog and I sent you
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Akil Hill: and and grab a packet of that instant fu soup while you're there. I'm not i'm not co-siding that because I haven't tried it. But you know definitely show up to the spaces. And just you know it's just such a special place to be. You know
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Leslie Marin Juarez: i'm looking forward to connecting with folks that I haven't had the opportunity to connect with, and as well as students, and just to see what the dream center grows into.
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Leslie Marin Juarez: And yeah, continue providing support for students
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Leslie Marin Juarez: and their families
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Hong Lieu: excellent. Thank you very much. We're we're we're grateful you here.
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Hong Lieu: Thankful they all for listening until next time. This was Vaquero Voices. Take care of all
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Leslie Marin Juarez: bye, guys.