Akil and Hong welcome Director of Enrollment and Retention Services Vanessa Pelton to the show to discuss Vaquero Welcome, her time as a student at SBCC, her family's Christmas Eve In-N-Out tradition, and how HBO's "Insecure" has helped her pass the time while at home. Akil and Hong chime in to discuss chicken soup, birria ramen, Star Wars animated series and "90-Day Fiance."
Mentioned in this episode:
Enrollment and Retention Services: https://www.sbcc.edu/enrollmentservices/
Vaquero Welcome: https://www.sbcc.edu/vaquerowelcome/
SBCC DSPS: https://www.sbcc.edu/dsps/
In-N-Out Burger: https://www.in-n-out.com/
Chicken Soup (for new mothers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz7YlEQTtBE
Postpartum Confinement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postpartum_confinement
Haircut/Red Egg and Ginger Party: https://www.redeggandgingerparty.com/etiquette/
Juarez Tacos: https://www.instagram.com/juareztacos90033/
Insecure: https://www.hbo.com/insecure
Star Wars - The Clone Wars: https://www.starwars.com/series/star-wars-the-clone-wars
Star Wars - Rebels: https://www.starwars.com/series/star-wars-rebels
90-Day Fiance: https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/90-day-fiance/
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Hong Lieu: Hello and welcome to another episode of SPC the kiddo voices a podcast highlighting the unique voices that comprise our campus culture and how we're all working together to serve our students and the community at large, as usual. I'm joined by my co host Akil hill.
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Hong Lieu: Hey guys.
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Hong Lieu: And today we are honored to welcome Vanessa Pelton to the show. Welcome, Vanessa. You are the officially the director of enrollment and retention services here NSPCC right
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Vanessa Pelton: Yes, I am. Thank you for having me today.
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Hong Lieu: And and so that's a pretty. I mean, it's a title that comes with a lot of I guess responsibilities. So if you want to kind of run through we're going to get to vacate a welcome in a second, but just kind of run through what
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Hong Lieu: Your office and your department is kind of overseeing here at the college. Oh, great. Yeah.
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Vanessa Pelton: enrollment and retention services is kind of a student hub. So we basically are the French
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Vanessa Pelton: first person point of contact for the college. So we do enrollment. So that means anything from outreach to student contact out recruiting students. So students before they become students so prospective students
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Vanessa Pelton: Into the steps to enrollment. So we help all the students basically through their steps to enrollment, which are obviously application orientation.
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Vanessa Pelton: Assessment advising or class planning and then all ultimately registering for classes. So our department, pretty much touches the students from the time they are entertaining the thought of coming here through registration.
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Hong Lieu: And you're definitely one of the more visible departments, because
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Hong Lieu: We see all the students giving tours. You know when someone goes in the Student Center. Welcome Center. That is your office as well so
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Vanessa Pelton: Exactly. So we also man. All the phone lines. So we are the info sec.edu and we are also the general phone number. So any of the marketing anything that goes out to the world. We are. That is our phone number and email address.
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Vanessa Pelton: So, that is, we also have a chat going as well. So we will answer any chats for application help and assistance so
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Vanessa Pelton: Our department is the I kind of the student hub for when they get started. Will and we work with the students. Pretty much throughout their timeline at the college because they can come to us anytime at any point for any information.
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Vanessa Pelton: And we also will answer questions for faculty and staff as well. So we get we have everybody
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Hong Lieu: I also also want to give you a shout out because you were one of the first to reach out to me to inquire about online chat.
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Vanessa Pelton: For the website. Yes.
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Hong Lieu: Yes. So now many
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Hong Lieu: Many departments.
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Hong Lieu: Yes, many departments that are on now as a result of the initial kind of research that we did to kind of figure out a solution that works for your office.
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Hong Lieu: And it seems to be working pretty well. I'm sure you're getting ridiculous amounts of people contacting you, because
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Hong Lieu: It's a nice way to interact with people where you can get directly to someone to ask a question, as opposed to trying to browse to the website to get the answer. So that, so kudos to you for that as well.
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Akil: Thank you.
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, we kind of called you at that last minute on that Friday before
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Vanessa Pelton: lockdown happen and asked you, and there was a chat service. And thankfully, you have that. So we yeah we started that before we even got told that we weren't coming back.
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Vanessa Pelton: We went ahead and started that right away on that Monday and it's been a great feature. I mean, I just hit numbers yesterday and we've had answered 10,000 chats.
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Vanessa Pelton: And average duration of the chat is about 20 minutes so they're long. I mean, it's and it's
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Vanessa Pelton: It takes time. It takes time to type in the questions and answer the questions and get them the information, but it's a valuable service and obviously it's working really well.
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Akil: I know in admissions. We worked with the pure chat for a brief moment during coven and yeah I can tell, I can assure you.
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Akil: That it does take time you're going back and forth. Sometimes students lose can lose connection sometimes like you were typing, you know it's it's it's a it's some heavy lifting. That's for sure.
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Vanessa Pelton: We have an amazing team. We have a lot of students that work for us. We have college representatives and they are the ones that are the behind the scenes people
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Vanessa Pelton: Doing the chat. So we have great students that have been with us for quite a while. Most of our students and they're the ones that are answering all those questions and able to help students. So we thankfully, have a great team.
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Akil: And how many people would be up on stuff. Whoops, sorry. Oh.
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Vanessa Pelton: So right now, staff wise, our departments have staff of seven. And then we have students that help us as well. The college representatives and usually we averaged what eight to 10 college representatives.
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Vanessa Pelton: So right now. Our numbers are kind of tweaked because we lost a few students during summer transferring moving on.
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Vanessa Pelton: And and that we're in the process of interviewing actually for a few new students to come on board with us so we, yeah. Thankfully, have a great team and getting people up to speed in this new world, it's, it's an interesting
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Vanessa Pelton: Interesting opportunity for us.
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Hong Lieu: Good Good way to frame it
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Hong Lieu: Is it a year. Is it a year out kind of thing is, are there ebbs and flows are you just busy all the time.
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Vanessa Pelton: I said I had a staff actually asked me that when I had did an interview last time is. Do you guys have a doubt in time and
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Vanessa Pelton: For a long time we have a slower time which was usually like October, and now I don't feel like that exists anymore, and especially this world. I don't see that actually happening but
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Vanessa Pelton: Our department. I feel like we've just been growing over the years and taking on more and doing we're doing a lot more events and doing things for student outreach.
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Vanessa Pelton: And so I feel like that downtime is really doesn't really happen anymore. And so we're, we're pretty steady and of course right now, as we all know, the with semester beginning week for Monday. It's we're really busy right now.
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Akil: Yeah, I can only imagine to, you know, like a lot of people in light of coven right that got into four years. I'm sure you know, paying out of state tuition and you know and universities in campus are being closed.
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Akil: I know I helped a mother and her son last I think was last week. The sun was at University of Colorado Boulder.
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Akil: They're like, why are we can be paying out of state tuition went in. So they basically were like, we're gonna be chose it started it comes into Barbara City College. And so I'm sure those are the type of
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Akil: Situations that your, your staff is up against. And so that's probably par for course.
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Vanessa Pelton: We are, and we're anticipating that even to pick up more so in the next week. I think a lot of people you know everything up in the air and all the uncertainties and then no one's with the state with our school, the government everything
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Vanessa Pelton: I think people are. We're waiting to hear more things before they made their decisions. And so I think a lot of people are
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Vanessa Pelton: Going to be waiting till the last minute to say, oh, yeah, we, we want to now come to City College. Why am I going to go pay for, for your tuition.
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Vanessa Pelton: When I can stay here and not you know if it's going to be online. What's the difference. And so, and they were to hear that a lot. The semester in I anticipate next week, getting pretty busy with that. Yes.
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Hong Lieu: Especially if you're a local resident. I mean, the promise guarantee
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Hong Lieu: Absolutely. Who years of not just tuition but books supplies everything
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Hong Lieu: In terms of, I mean they talk about sports like you're just reading for laundry.
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Hong Lieu: But if you're going to an online college and you're not going there. You're not going in the classes you're not using any of the on campus facilities, then you're just going to a name. So in terms of
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Hong Lieu: Deferring that enrollment and going to City College, where it would be free for two years through the promise. I mean, it's a pretty compelling choice right now to just stick it out for a little while and just see what see what you have here, so
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, exactly. I don't know why you wouldn't. And if I were a local family. I can't imagine not sending like, you know, why would I send them away to pay that tuition when
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Hong Lieu: I went to my son sleeps and I whispers that you're hoping to brainwash them like NSPCC promise. Just remember in 15 years you know because because the little four year colleges this you know but but that value. I mean, as a frugal person. I will, you know, like I can't beat that belly.
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Vanessa Pelton: Was a huge yeah that's a huge benefit and value any. I mean, I was a community college student. So I, you know, that's my background. Nothing wrong with going to community college for two years.
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Hong Lieu: Absolutely and that's that segues to our new section where we're going to discuss the kettle. Welcome, which is kind of an orientation for new students coming in or yes yes and
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. And in the past it was it was a beach component. There was an on campus component, but this year is when these unprecedented times it is all virtual you're going to be doing everything online and through zoom I imagined or
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, this is a new experience for us. We've never hosted I've never hosted a online event ever so
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, it's going to be a new a new world. Normally we would have a big in person. It's one of our biggest events. We usually have about 800 people attend
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Vanessa Pelton: This event in there in person world. And it's usually a full day event where it starts with a welcome and greeting from the President. And then it goes into
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Vanessa Pelton: We actually have a third party vendor that comes in and does the fun part of it, which is like an engaging interactive piece.
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Vanessa Pelton: And and then we continue on. Give students lunch walk around for tourists introduced them to student services and then we do in the day with a beach party.
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Vanessa Pelton: At our local beach across the street. However, that's obviously different this year.
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Vanessa Pelton: So, um, it was interesting. It took us a little while to kind of wrap our heads around what it was going to look like and how we were going to do it.
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Vanessa Pelton: But thankfully the vendor that we use their called play fair and they reached out to us, probably in the beginning of the summer when this was all happening.
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Vanessa Pelton: And said that they are going to do an online platform. And so we worked with them. To do this, you know,
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Vanessa Pelton: Event in the online world and then online platform and they have been fantastic. So we're replicating what we would normally do in the in person world. So we're still
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Vanessa Pelton: Going to have a video welcome in the morning. So it starts next Friday on the 21st and it starts at 930
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Vanessa Pelton: And and so at 930 it's actually a pre recorded welcome from myself the president and then we actually did some student voices.
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Vanessa Pelton: Video. So one of my student college representatives took the lead on that project and has been videotaping students and working on the video.
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Vanessa Pelton: So we will stream that video and then play fair will take over the host. So they will take over the event and do the fun interactive engaging
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Vanessa Pelton: Part of the event. We did a demo with them a few weeks ago and it was completely fun and engaging. Even if you're sitting at home. It was lively, there was music there.
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Vanessa Pelton: Was opportunities they have breakout rooms. So you got to know the people in your breakout room. Find out where they're from.
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Vanessa Pelton: And so it's fun. They will be doing a 75 minute portion of that. And then we'll end with finale, where we'll have like goodie bag and giveaways and coupons and information to students to again about resources going forward. But Hong actually has been helping me design that page so
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Hong Lieu: Where were you provide everything I just laid out, you put it on there so
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Hong Lieu: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: You may not know much listen
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Akil: He's the master.
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Hong Lieu: I still wish they would change that title.
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Akil: Testers such as the
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Akil: Master
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Hong Lieu: Who can say
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Hong Lieu: You can say they have mastered anything in this
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Hong Lieu: World, like I can, I can you see in the master of tying my shoes, let alone running got a web architecture. Yeah. So person. Yeah.
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Vanessa Pelton: You're great. And you're fast and
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Vanessa Pelton: I called him on Wednesday. That's why I wasn't Tuesday. I'm like, what day is today.
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Vanessa Pelton: Tuesday and asked him to help me with this project to create these two web pages on for the Ricker resources.
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Vanessa Pelton: And so we're going to be able to provide students some resource guides and then also a page with coupons and swag and the flyers from different departments that they've been providing us so
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Vanessa Pelton: A hopefully a place that students can land and find out information that they may need along the way.
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Hong Lieu: Which is always yeah it can be a little overwhelming to start somewhere. For the first time, going to school going to college, especially
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Hong Lieu: So having a place to go to where you can get a bunch of links store that you that you know you if you don't know the answer, you can at least start fishing around there, it's it's a it's a smaller pool to fishing instead of the vast ocean that is our website at times. So it's good resources.
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Vanessa Pelton: Absolutely. A lot of our students. I mean, we all know this. A lot of students don't necessarily know what they need to know and when until it happens so
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Vanessa Pelton: Times we inundate them with a lot of information at the beginning, you should know this. You should know that. But what we realized is better to give them information along the way. So hopefully give them the place to find this information and then they can go visit when they need it.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. Where to go in the back of your head now now to ask both you really quickly. Did you all do any sort of orientation before you started college. Do they have any kind of event like that for y'all when you when you went to school with either one. Yeah, so
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Akil: He tried to data is man.
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Akil: Don't
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Akil: Don't try to be sneaky with that question. I see, I see.
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Akil: I see that coming. Like a right hook. I'm
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Hong Lieu: Not sure if it's you or not because I did something like that we had
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Hong Lieu: Well, so
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Hong Lieu: While we
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Akil: Look, so yeah. So in other words, basically saying that we're over that.
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Akil: That didn't
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Akil: That didn't, you know, that didn't exist when I was in high school on so
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Akil: No, I did not answer the question. No.
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Vanessa Pelton: Well I transferred a little bit older.
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Vanessa Pelton: I did get an orientation. I don't remember the big actual event, but I do remember like orientation weekend my college where they did different events around the first week of school. So I went to a smaller private school so
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Hong Lieu: At Cal Poly did a whole week. And for me, a week was almost too long. I mean, it was not like I'm not. I'm a social person, but by the end of it, I was like, You're going roller skating. Now, like what is this, you know, but
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Hong Lieu: So I think I feel like McKenna, welcome. Is that nice balance in terms of
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Hong Lieu: Its one day. So even if you're like absolutely loading the idea of getting together like you. There's a lot of information there. And you get to you. It's your first chance to meet a lot of folks that you'll be kind of walking by. I mean, you know, walking by and zoom meetings, you know,
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Hong Lieu: In classes. So in terms of coordinating kind of study efforts and stuff so I in the grand scheme of things, at the time I didn't want to do the orientation, but
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Hong Lieu: I was grateful for and I met a lot of people there that I ended up knowing the whole time I was in college, so it was kind of it was definitely worthwhile, I would say.
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Akil: Yeah, you know, I always I
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Akil: Always use it. I'm thinking back a little bit going down memory lane about when we used to have.
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Akil: Prior to cove it and how was such a big shindig with you guys putting it on and I just remember the energy on the campus was great. You see a lot of students walking around with their parents.
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Akil: Man, I'm, I'm going to miss that this year, but I'm looking forward to see how that it turns out, virtually, you know,
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Akil: But I just remember, you know, I would see myself full disclosure and a few other employees always get an ice cream cones and, you know, over there. So it's, I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm sure you guys is going to do a great job.
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Akil: I want to say a special shout out to Christy and Mary Lou Cruces offices right next to mine so we always I always check in with her prior to Cove, he will always come in and say what's up to me.
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Akil: So she so I know they they're friggin hard working dedicated committed. So I just want to say a special shout out to them and Christy. My office is still a lot better than yours. We have a
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Akil: Little inside thing going, where she thinks our offices her aesthetic is better than mine. And that's just not true. So, so I just had. I want to share some light on that real quick.
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Vanessa Pelton: Doesn't have the curtains that you have, but she has the cashier set some time.
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Hong Lieu: Oh wow, that's, that's
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Akil: She does have a food on their office so she has a fancy
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Vanessa Pelton: But just to let you know, Akil
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Vanessa Pelton: Yes, a special shout out to them because they have been fantastic. I could not be doing my job, or any of the things we do without our team, our team is amazing and our students as well. They like it's a great team.
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Akil: And they absolutely
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Vanessa Pelton: Have been committed, and we've all been working together for quite a while. Even our students. We've had some of our students now going on two or three years, so it's it's fantastic. We have a great team, but just to tell you I changed my office. I have no longer downstairs.
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Akil: I know I was looking at that.
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Akil: And I'm looking at the moment we're on zoom
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah.
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Akil: But I'm like I've seen like wait a minute, that looks a little different to me.
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Vanessa Pelton: Our department has jumped ship from behind a an art. So we are now established and upstairs HR space.
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Vanessa Pelton: Oh, this is official again. I guess I'm making it official but we moved. Yeah, our departments been kind of wonky because we've never had a physical department, we don't have a space. We've been third building is very
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Vanessa Pelton: Outdated so our space, we've been kind of disjointed where we have a couple offices, like I said, he's next door to Christie. So we have two offices behind admissions and records. We have an office behind academic counseling.
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Vanessa Pelton: I have to staff over in a portable and I have other staff upstairs in this Student Services Building. So we are all over the place. And so I have been really trying hard to get us a department and department space to be able to be a department. And so we finally are able to
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Vanessa Pelton: occupy a space upstairs. We are now in our old Human Resources space they moved out of the building. Last year, and so we are now taking over their space. Don't know what that's going to look like when we return to in person.
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Vanessa Pelton: But that's, that's where we are. So I moved myself and my team is not here. So I'm the only one right now.
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Vanessa Pelton: It's amazing. I have you back. I have an ocean view. I have a conference table. It's wonderful.
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Hong Lieu: And everybody's moving up there too. So they'll all be together for me.
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Vanessa Pelton: Since I've been in this department, which is about five years and we have not had a space together and so
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Vanessa Pelton: It's not effective when you're together when you're a team. It's great. You can see each other, you just build off those dynamics. I mean, as we know, and I'll be face to face right now or feeling for that, but being able to have, you know, two minute powers in the hallway and
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah conversations as you pass by that's invaluable. And so it's huge for us to always to all finally being together it will be a great
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Akil: That's awesome. That's great news. I'm excited for you guys.
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah. So you guys have two more offices to fight over now in your department.
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Vanessa Pelton: He said,
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, that was a little tangent, but there you go. There's our little background.
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Hong Lieu: Breaking news right there. So I guess that will segue into our next question for you, Vanessa, in terms of how you came to SBC and or Santa Barbara area, etc, etc. What, what brought you into the universe of City College.
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Vanessa Pelton: So my background actually started at City College as a student. So my parents moved to Santa Barbara. When I graduated from high school, I didn't have a choice in the matter. My parents never really
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Vanessa Pelton: encouraged me to go to a four year right away. I don't think I had the grades or even the desire to go to a four year. So when we move we were moving from LA.
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Vanessa Pelton: To Santa Barbara. And so it was just given that I was going to go to City College. And so I started here.
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Vanessa Pelton: Back. I can remember coming in for placement for assessment testing, when I was a student, way back then and I was a DSP a student
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Vanessa Pelton: made my way here, and it was great. I mean, I started you know that fall semester, I don't think we ever had an orientation or any kind of event.
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Vanessa Pelton: It was actually thankfully with the DSP s program that I was in smaller class sizes. So I got to know a lot of the people through the assessment test and then
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Vanessa Pelton: And so a lot of the same people were in the same classes. So I got to know a great group of people were still some of my friends to the state.
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Vanessa Pelton: And so that's how my story began at City College. I, I loved being a student here. I had a great time and the campus looked a little different. There are newer buildings now.
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Vanessa Pelton: And and then I moved up north. Finally transferred and then came back to Santa Barbara back over I've almost been to the college for 15 years so about 15 years ago I came back to Santa Barbara was looking for jobs. I worked. I started working in the college
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Vanessa Pelton: Level I started working at the college I went to actually holy names University up in Oakland. I started working for our enrollment services department there.
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Vanessa Pelton: And that started me in the whole higher ed path. And so when I came back to Santa Barbara I ultimately my goal was to come to Santa Barbara City College.
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Vanessa Pelton: I started working at Cal State Channel Islands and worked there for about a year in their admissions department and then came over here and was hired on as a transcript analyst, which was the first transcript analyst.
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Akil: I remember you were the first one I remember that.
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Vanessa Pelton: I was the first one you came right before I didn't kill, I think.
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Vanessa Pelton: Exactly. I came here and oh five. And so yeah, so I was first transcript analyst. I was hired by the dean at the time, Keith microloan who is fantastic.
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Vanessa Pelton: And ironically, I always say this is a funny story, because as a student, I was put on academic probation.
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Vanessa Pelton: Quite a few times and had to like petition to come back and I had to petition to the dean, who was in the office.
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Vanessa Pelton: I wasn't the best student. So don't with my transcripts and so anyways I was hired under him to build this new position this new role at the college. And I did that for
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Vanessa Pelton: Nine years. Yeah, and was transcript analyst was the one for many, many years until we finally got another person and now they're department of what 565 people
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Vanessa Pelton: Wow, so that, and then I I really enjoyed that job. That was a good behind the scenes learning like policies.
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Vanessa Pelton: All the behind the scenes transcript evaluations, looking at transcripts. I worked really closely with admissions and records.
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Vanessa Pelton: Doing all the prerequisites, we had to build at the time. We didn't enforce prerequisites. So we had to get. That's why we also transition to banner. When we first got banner back in the day, I'm
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Vanessa Pelton: So back in those days. So we were part of that. And then we started implementing and enforcing prerequisites with Banner, so their students weren't able to register for classes.
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Vanessa Pelton: Without the prerequisites. So we I developed the whole prerequisite verification process and forms and all that whole process and then
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Vanessa Pelton: I finally transitioned over to this position. So I, I love to the behind the scenes. But then I kind of wanted to get more involved and change.
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Vanessa Pelton: And felt like it was time to get into something new. So then I thankfully became the director of Enrollment Services and I love this job. It's great. It's a fantastic job. I love being able to work with the students coming into college. Again, I have a great team. They are make my job.
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Vanessa Pelton: Great. It's always a fun experience really good people and just, yeah, I love the recruitment piece of it kills actually helped us go out on the road, a few times to do recruitment for students.
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, he and I did a trip last year up the Bay Area. We had a great time.
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Vanessa Pelton: So this jumps fun because you get to see the students to get to work with them face to face. You really get to promote the college and get that engagement and you get to work with parents, which is a fun experience to be all know it's a love hate relationship. Sometimes parents, but
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Vanessa Pelton: Parents went to hold hands. But no, I always enjoy both parts I like working with students. I like working with the parents. We have students of all types of demographics ages backgrounds and that's, I really like about this college as well as we have just such a great
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Hong Lieu: And you really run the gamut in terms of work from being behind the scenes evaluating transcripts and now
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Hong Lieu: In the in this more in this role doing events and things of that sort and kind of like being a, you know, an ambassador for the school and a lot of ways.
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Hong Lieu: To do the first point of contact for a lot of students for a lot of parents for a lot of, you know, so, yeah. So yeah, you've really done a lot and it's nice to see
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Akil: I'm just gonna yeah I wanted to touch on something I was listening to us thinking about, you know, just listening to, you know, tell us about your journey. And I think it's super important to know, you know that.
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Akil: People that have been on the block so to speak and who've been employed at Santa Barbara City College. It's, it's great to see them.
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Akil: In different positions because that's, you know, the piece that I feel is really important, where we have people great people. We hire great people. And there's a certain amount of
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Akil: A certain amount of wealth by hiring people who are within the department or within the institution.
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Akil: Like this institutional knowledge that a lot of places. You just can't find, you know, I remember a few years back, where a lot of people took the survey.
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Akil: And a lot of people with institutional knowledge all basically left and then, you know, so that's bringing in a whole lot of new hires, which is good, but then you just miss like like what you're saying. Keith McCullough, and that's a name that a lot of people may not even remember.
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Akil: We asked last, last week we talked about Henry read these are the people that that have left a legacy at Santa Barbara City College and so
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Akil: You know that's that's my plug on that. I just think we got to be really mindful of recognizing the people who have been at the institution and move them for into positions that will help better than the institution.
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Akil: It's good to look outside as well. If people are qualified they're qualified. But I think it's important to to recognize that. So that's what's so great about your story and I enjoy listening to it.
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Vanessa Pelton: Thanks. Yeah, I agree with that. It's nice when you're sitting in a room there's been a meeting, sometimes where you're sitting around the room and you'll talk about
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Vanessa Pelton: How long have you been at the college. I mean, and sometimes I mean there's people. There's a lot of dedicated people here and I mean there are people. I have one of my staff actually just got recognition for 30 years
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Vanessa Pelton: Being at the college and she came from non credit assessment to all you know she has this and these like you said that institutional knowledge that background is just such a value to us and it's great to have that
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, I'm under two years here and that's like a baby.
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Akil: Like con. You are a baby.
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Hong Lieu: For my school you're young, you can fit my institutional knowledge and like you know like a fingernail. You know, like equivalent to what everyone knows around me like you know people my office have been here for over 20 years so
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Akil: But you're the Master. You're the one
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Akil: That's a plug for last dragon.
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Hong Lieu: Absolutely. That'll that'll definitely go up. But if you drip. So, but I also didn't want to plug, real quick, in terms of your path coming up with academic probation, going to the SPS like
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Hong Lieu: Academic Probation those three strikes you're out. I had two strikes and I built myself out the first year did the same thing. The second year. And, you know, if not for the grace of begging.
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Hong Lieu: To one teacher to to help me out. I would never have gotten through and took me five years to get a philosophy degree.
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Hong Lieu: But just get it done. If you get it done there. There's a future ahead of you. You know, so it's worth seeing it through seeing things that are and
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Hong Lieu: And working, things like that. So it's, it's a good testament to just, just keep keep working. Keep just get it done, it's gonna be hard, it's not you know it's not always convenient or easy but if you see it through and get it done. There is there is a path on the other side of it. So,
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, and I think it also shows back to the importance of getting involved. You know, we always tell our students like the most successful students are usually the students to get involved, you know, to be involved in something be involved.
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Vanessa Pelton: But in our like even our students that work here. It's just it, it shows the success rate for students that are involved so much higher. And I know that even personally
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Vanessa Pelton: When I said it my college I became an RA a resident advisor and that helped me get involved. And actually, like I said transition me into working transition to me in my career paths I if I'd never worked as an RA.
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Vanessa Pelton: If I wouldn't be standing here right now. I don't know where I would have landed. But that's, you know, goes back and also with even the DSP has program.
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Vanessa Pelton: Going back to that. And it's the disability services and programs for students.
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Vanessa Pelton: But a lot of students don't even realize we have those resources you know another thing our department really tries to do is share out resources on campus.
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Vanessa Pelton: For students and a lot of students don't know that they even exist because they're behind the scenes. Sometimes they don't walk into the student services.
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Vanessa Pelton: Places are. And it's interesting because I always share that story. And when I do for Carol welcome I talk about being a DSP a student and how you know I got their services.
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Vanessa Pelton: And I've had so many families come up to me after the program and say, where's that department. Where's that service I you know my student has just really, I want to be able to utilize the services so
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Vanessa Pelton: That's why we always try to share with students like really, you have to be your own advocate. Now you're an adult, you know, your parents can't hold your hand through this one but
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Vanessa Pelton: Really try to find those services and be able to seek them out because there's so many things that are there so many great programs on this campus for them. It's just that you have to find them.
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Akil: I mean, Jenna was on here last week and we talked
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Akil: About that and I think you you're basically testifying to what we were talking about is basically one normalizing it and and owning it. And so you can get the services.
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Akil: You need to be successful. And the truth of the matter to also is, you know, it's important to note, like we have you know condition, our students and our children to
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Akil: To only be like okay you graduate from high school, you have to have good grades, you have to go to college, you have to get good grades.
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Akil: Like there's no room for failure here. And I think the real growth in a lot of things is comes when you are at the moment where you feel like you cannot persevere and you have to dig a little bit deeper and you got to struggle a little bit harder. And then the opening appears and then
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Akil: That's where the grill growth occurs, you know, like if you're just getting straight A's all and we do recognize students that obviously are bright and who are straight A's all the way through, but
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Akil: You know, it's how you deal with your, with your failures determines the type of person, you're going to be because when you're getting
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Akil: A's or you're striking everyone out. The only response for that is good. So in this is a great thing that I always admire and love about city colleges, because
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Akil: Our institution is an institution where people can come and we say come as you are. And you will believe in a better place if you apply yourself.
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Akil: Not all institutions are like that, especially for your institutions like people are so focused to get there, but we're saying come as you are. And we're doing well, except you.
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Vanessa Pelton: Like that one. That's a good one.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, in boxing in boxing. They always say it's not about winning the belt. It's about losing the bell and getting it back. You know, a lot of times they say that you're not a true champion. So you lost and got it back in.
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Hong Lieu: And going up going to for your school for me was really humbling because high school was I could coast and do
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Hong Lieu: Very little, and just get by and get through and do this and that but going to college. You really had to put in the work and City College as one of the best can be caught in the nation.
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Hong Lieu: I see it to the curriculum here can be tough, you have to put in the work. You know, so it's it's a it's a it's an eye opener and a wake up call for a lot of folks. But if you
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Hong Lieu: Put your nose to the grindstone put in that work there is, there is a better path. And the nice thing here that we're saying is that this is a lot of work, but there was a lot of help and a lot of resources here. If you're willing to take advantage of it. Absolutely.
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Hong Lieu: So on that. And on that note, we can move move into the fun the fun. I was gonna say fun or but the more fun stuff.
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Hong Lieu: Our food section for the week, dude. Does anyone want to volunteer first
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Hong Lieu: Um,
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Vanessa Pelton: Well, how you want me to start it, but I'm just going in our food. Food tradition.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, let's do that. Go forward Vanessa.
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Vanessa Pelton: So our tradition, so are funny family story is that years ago. So we were living in LA and my grandparents always hosted Christmas Eve at their house and
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Vanessa Pelton: Did dinner, but it was always one of those late nights that will last until put a baby Jesus in the manger at midnight.
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Vanessa Pelton: And so my parents, we would go to church. I was raised Catholic. So we'd go to church. You know, before we go to my grandparents house.
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Vanessa Pelton: But my parents also knew that dinner was going to be served to really late and it was going to be a late night so after church.
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Vanessa Pelton: I don't even know when this started. But I mean, from when I was young and we would go to church and then after we would go to In and Out Burger.
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Vanessa Pelton: And sit in the car and eat. In and Out Burger right next to it in the street right be fixed. In and Out Burger and then go to my grandparents house.
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Vanessa Pelton: And that was something my mom. We all we cooked for Christmas Day. My mom, my parents always hosted a big Christmas when we lived in LA. There was a lot of family around so they always hosted a really big Christmas event.
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Vanessa Pelton: And so my mom's thing was, she would not cook on Christmas Eve. And so we would do her In and Out Burger. Go to my grandparents house and go home.
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Vanessa Pelton: And then that tradition carried on for years. I mean, we still have Christmas, but it's not as big as it was back then.
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Vanessa Pelton: And but we still have that tradition where Christmas Eve. And the funny thing is, is when we first moved to Santa Barbara, there wasn't an In and Out Burger.
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Vanessa Pelton: So that, yeah. Santa Barbara didn't happen and over. So we had to wait a few years and I don't even remember what we did in the interim, but
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Vanessa Pelton: We had to wait a few years till In and Out Burger came along to be able to continue our tradition here. So we still continue that tradition where we go to Mass and we get
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Vanessa Pelton: And we all have. In and Out Burger and it usually includes some neighbor, my brother's neighbor friend lives across street who will always come over for Christmas Eve, it always involves
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Vanessa Pelton: That's the goal. That's so that's funny you say that because everybody's orders varies. My dad literally sits for the pen and paper after church.
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Vanessa Pelton: And writes down everybody's order and everybody has it all over the place. So yeah, my brother will always go animal style fries.
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Vanessa Pelton: I did not. I just like complain. And so I just do plain fries with animals that burger, though. I like my animal style burger. So, but we get it. Yeah. Some people get the animal fry some do plane. I always like a strawberry milkshake.
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Hong Lieu: I was depriving myself for years years trying to be simple, like, oh, single cheeseburger, you know, for know the double, double, is that optimal balance for me. I feel like and I need grilled and Ron, yes I do animal style, but I want grilled and
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Vanessa Pelton: Pretty much our whole family gets double doubles the sad thing is, is my son has allergies, he's allergic to dairy. So my son has not been able to have that experience and I hope I pray, one day that he will outgrow those but
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Vanessa Pelton: He can't partake in that experience. So one day, hopefully he will he can eat the fries, you can
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Hong Lieu: And I, and I don't I don't love the animal style fries. I thought I would, because I'm a chili, fries junkie, but it doesn't hit the same spot because it's, you know, the sauce a little different but
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Hong Lieu: Just try to be more basic with my ordering, but I do look in and out, even though they don't have shredded lettuce shredded lettuce and onion rings would be my team in and out.
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Hong Lieu: Until then, they are still Yeah, still the, the California burger chain. I didn't realize Santa Barbara and haven't been out till I guess you know until you know someone recently told this century, I guess.
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Vanessa Pelton: It does seem really old again.
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Akil: So it's every show Vanessa, man. We're on this is our first show it comes up at least once, and every show
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Vanessa Pelton: Gonna have to Google when it came about.
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Akil: I'm gonna guess and say, maybe I'm gonna say oh seven.
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Vanessa Pelton: If I could find it. It was definitely a 2000
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, cuz I moved. I moved here and oh seven, and it's been here as long as I've been here. So yeah, that's
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Vanessa Pelton: I can find it.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. Then another. Another thing people like to do now is have people chop the chilies and I can't do that either, because I just imagine the amount of work on the back. So I did not get the get the chilis on that in a little bag and just eat on the side.
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Vanessa Pelton: Was like not even know that there was an undercover menu.
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah. Well, I had a friend is vegetarian. So I learned about that a long time ago because she said oh yeah I can order this grilled cheese.
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Hong Lieu: Protein style. And yeah, so they definitely does run that. That's where I learned about lightly. Well, I had a friend that worked in and out. He's like, there's, there's, there's degrees to this. There's levels to the frying of the fries. But there's. Yeah. So yeah.
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Hong Lieu: That is a good tradition, though.
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Akil: And I'm Chris a great tradition.
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Hong Lieu: My pic for this week. And I've gone back and forth on this, but I'm going with the simplest our chicken soup chicken soup is something that
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Hong Lieu: Is one of my son's favorite foods. Surprisingly, because I was expected. You know, chicken nuggets pizza there. Those are up there too. But in the grand scheme of things. When you ask him what he wants to eat.
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Hong Lieu: soup with rice and that's chicken soup and my theory goes back to when he was born because Chinese tradition when when you know you have a baby.
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Hong Lieu: One thing that was rough for us is the mother can't leave the house for 100 400 days. So I know 30 days 30 days no even house indoors, all the time. My wife was crazy. By the end of it, but my mom was living with us. So she was pretty like stubborn about it. So it was
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Hong Lieu: Like a test of words or no, no one would actually call each other out. Or like my mom, my wife wouldn't say like I'm going outside. That's it. And my mom wouldn't be like you're staying inside, but they have just looked each other and just have this understanding so
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Hong Lieu: You know what she didn't and and that was kind of my, my mom wasn't, like, go ahead. You can do that. It was like, Nope.
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Hong Lieu: So 30 days and leaving the house, but the same time. Once the baby's born. My mom came up and they make this soup. It's chicken soup.
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Hong Lieu: They put goji berries in there. So there's like dried like dates and stuff. There's all kinds of other things like herbal kind of
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Hong Lieu: additions to add to the soup. So you feed that to the mother for the first few days to help with with healing and recovery. And it was kind of this like jolt of energy. You know, like, it felt good.
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Hong Lieu: For for me because I eat some too because I'm you know I'm part of part of the process, I guess.
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Hong Lieu: He can pick it over the shoulder like all have some of that to you know so yeah but
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Hong Lieu: But yeah, so that that was you know when when my son was just born and early, early going, it was part of his life.
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Hong Lieu: And then as as my mom stayed with us for a little while. As you get older and every time she would make him super thrice like I talked about conjure an earlier episode, which is just rice with a, you know, like a broth and stuff so
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Hong Lieu: The soup and rice base became a big part of his early died as a baby, too. So, even now.
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Hong Lieu: That my mom isn't here anymore. And my wife is still making you know stupid stuff you always ask for soup rice. And so the her chicken. My wife she conceives legend for my mom's it's more of a traditional, you know, carrots, celery,
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Hong Lieu: Chicken with the Boolean and stuff, but it's still just like that that through line for my son's whole life, and it has become one of us here, food, so he doesn't do chicken noodle. He likes noodles, but
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Hong Lieu: It has to be rice and I know it rolls down my cheek, as I, as I say that he's like I Yeah, hold it down, give
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Hong Lieu: The staple carb is important. Like if we ever fallen rough times and we me you need peanuts and right to survive. I'm glad to know that you can do that, but yeah.
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Vanessa Pelton: Recipes you ever know that there's a little book called chicken noodle soup with rice or chicken soup with rice. That's like I have I'll have to share it with you because I don't know.
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Vanessa Pelton: When I was growing up, my mom had this little book series like these little bitty books and ones chicken soup with rice and it's a cute books sipping one city sipping
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Hong Lieu: Twice sipping oh yeah I remember that book. Yes, yes.
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, so my son has now he loves that book. So, and now all of a sudden he has this fascination with chicken soup, but not with rice. He likes the chicken noodle soup. Thankfully,
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Vanessa Pelton: No, no offense, but I just
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Hong Lieu: Everybody's got different carbs as long as you're using that car to supplement your diet or, you know, I'm happy. And if your, if your car free zones, you have something some kind of filler.
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Hong Lieu: Because it's like a it's to luxurious to be just like all meat or something like that, you know, you need something space things out of it, but
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah. So we started that I STARTED HE SAYS HE LIKES IT AND IT ACTUALLY WORKED OUT WELL BECAUSE WITH HIS allergies. I can't ever buy chicken noodle soup at a store because he usually has a unit and he's allergic to eight.
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Vanessa Pelton: So I made a lot of chicken noodle soup. And now, because of that book. I feel like he's been asking for it all the time. So now, anytime I say, What do you want for he's three minute. And when I asked him what he wants to eat, he'll say chicken noodle soup that's become his thing. And yeah.
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Hong Lieu: So no, so you don't use the egg noodles. The yellow noodles do use a different little
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Vanessa Pelton: Because allergic. So I just usually use pasta noodles.
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Hong Lieu: Oh, nice.
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Vanessa Pelton: So I just make it from scratch. And then, ironically, my mom's been recovering from knee replacement surgery so
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Vanessa Pelton: She's been wanting soup. So I just made a big part of it last week. And it was great because she loved it and he loved it and they're both happy. So you get the chicken noodle soup.
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Akil: Yeah, Vanessa, or friends on Facebook. I think I remember seeing a photo that you posted a little man eating, eating chicken suit was a cute photo. Yeah, yeah.
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Akil: And then haha funny cuz Harlan used to work with my mom at the public library. And so I actually remember her telling me about that the tradition about how your wife had to stay inside for 30 days so
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Hong Lieu: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I mean, not, not that there's, there's, there's a lot more than that because 100 days to do what's called a red and ginger party, which is nice because everyone gets together and eat a big meal. But the flip side of that is the also shaved the baby's head at that time.
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Hong Lieu: So not here. I mean, and and as a disclaimer. Not everyone follows these to the T i mean i have my, my parents like for visitors from Vietnam. But I mean, I'm sure the duration differs a little bit for everybody.
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Hong Lieu: But yeah, so they they cut his hair to
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Hong Lieu: Do like a fresh start, like you're no longer a baby, you're a man, go get a job, you know, support your family kind of thing. But so
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Hong Lieu: That made him in this old barber and so he could barely see running clippers over my son's head like scratching them here and there. My son's crying. His eyes out. Like it was it was a nightmare. It was like oh so bad.
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Hong Lieu: And, and, in my mind, I'm just trying to be the good son falling traditions and in hindsight is like wasn't worth the emotional toil that I put on my family like I
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Akil: Yeah, it was.
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Akil: Yeah, that's funny.
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Hong Lieu: Because my mom was my mom was happy. But I don't know if it made the cake. Got me any points in the grand scheme of things like better son points. I don't know. Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I don't think I'll ever climb the highest mountain of getting in my mom, my parents good graces, but
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Hong Lieu: Maybe one day.
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Hong Lieu: Oh yeah yeah yeah i mean it's it's nice because there are those, those, those three lines that we can all run through but yet at the same time. Some of them are like, what is going on here. I
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Hong Lieu: Think we can monetize some of these things. Although, yeah, I guess, I guess that was, those were both my fault in terms of I could have found
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Hong Lieu: A barber with better vision and then yeah, just kind of a more relaxed kind of thing there's there's ways to make things work. And I guess the the the the
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Hong Lieu: The truth of it is not to be so hard line like my wife wanted to go outside like peak outside the sun for a second. She could have done that and like so yeah there's there's definitely wiggle room there for these regions as well.
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Akil: Sure. This quarantine got got me thinking that I used to be a team extrovert, but lately. I feel like I'm almost on team introvert. Now, so, you know,
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Akil: But I have been venturing out. So I guess I'll go ahead and just lead into
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Akil: My food pic for the show. And it was actually I went there yesterday.
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Akil: It's a place down in Oxnard went down there. My wife and I and we hit up. It's called wars tacos. Listen, y'all, I'm gonna have to be full transparency on this podcast. If you live in Santa Barbara. If you live in Ventura if you commute to work and you live in Ohio, or anywhere.
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Akil: You guys got to go to try this place when places literally amazing I we got down there yesterday it was probably, I don't know, maybe like around seven o'clock, maybe 630 and there was a there's put this way when we got our order we were number 27
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Akil: And they were on number like five like that was how many people that had ordered ordered in front of us that were waiting to get their food.
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Akil: They do actually have Instagram page given a full shout out. It's on Oxnard Oxon Boulevard and saviors
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Akil: I don't know if you guys are familiar, but I think there's really something going on in Oxnard with the food truck craze. This place is actually a food truck as well.
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Akil: But I think there's something in the water in Oxnard with all the different food trucks, but they specialize in media. And so I ordered the video Ramen, which was. It was really good. It was basically be the and
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Akil: In ramen. But the funny thing is, it was the tablet to Roman that was already. It was already pre package. So they basically just take the video juices. The condiment it put it inside, inside
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Akil: But it's, it kind of marinated, and then there's onion cilantro and all that helpings so it was kind of hardy lot of meat in there. And then my wife's you actually got the tacos.
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Akil: Those talks were amazing. They take the tortilla. They dip it in the economy and then they fry it with the case. Oh, in the in the Bay Area, man.
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Akil: I can go on for days about it but
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Akil: Check it out. Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: So it didn't take too long to get your food. That's my only question if your number 27 the right number five. You were like an hour away. Was it
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Hong Lieu: Wasn't it. No, no, it wasn't like it.
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Akil: Wasn't our way like you're at the Cheesecake Factory, you know, I'm if they were they were rattling them off, they would call like 5678
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Akil: And then wait for another like five minutes. They'll call three more numbers. So, I mean, it was probably in the waiting for like 20 minutes, maybe, but man, listen, it's in a parking lot.
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Akil: It's in listen
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Akil: Here's the thing, man like
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Hong Lieu: The best eaten here.
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Akil: I'm telling you, it is the best eating because I'm convinced, like when you go and you sit down. It's not this. It's just not the same, like you need to be
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Akil: My, my key is, is where the, where the locals people eating that. You know, I mean, if I'm showing up to a food truck and everyone looks like me.
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Akil: And I'm just gonna be full transparency, if it's a Mexican food truck. I don't know if I eat there. You know, I want to go where the people are local, and where they're eating that because that to me is like, okay, I'm in the right spot. You know, so
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Akil: So it's in. It's in a parking lot, like a Jason to like a church in the crazy thing is is that the parking lot was packed. People were coming in and out, like it was definitely a production, but it definitely actually is worth the food was really good.
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Vanessa Pelton: What's the spelling of it again because now I'm you know
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Hong Lieu: Is what is what is right. Like, what
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Akil: Yeah, wonder is like Jay you I yeah are easy.
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Akil: They I think they have an Instagram.
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Akil: Page, but the food is like if you're ever down in that area like don't miss opportunity.
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Hong Lieu: And in these coven times I feel like that kind of eating where you're you're parking your car in a parking lot. You get your food. You go to your car need that's
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Hong Lieu: That's ideal right now, you know,
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Akil: I ideal.
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Hong Lieu: And speaking of
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Hong Lieu: Speaking of video ramen. Specifically, I mean, you know, the thing about it is it's this nice it's it's fusion cuisine in a way
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Hong Lieu: But it's fusion. That makes sense, because you know instant ramen is a big part like when I was growing up in East LA.
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Hong Lieu: I went a lot of friends houses and they all had instant ramen because it was it was easy food easy
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Hong Lieu: Easy blue collar food, you know, it's a quick meal, it's filling and and they tell me that even in Mexico. Everyone needs a lot of people eating ramen in terms of working class folks.
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Hong Lieu: So it's something that they're, you know, you think it doesn't make sense at the outset of on the surface level of it.
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Hong Lieu: But at the truth is instant ramen is a big part of Mexican culture and
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Hong Lieu: Adding video to it just makes too much sense. Because, you know, beauty is having a moment and kind of food right now.
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Hong Lieu: You're, you know, like you're doing a lot of stuff with video tacos constant may all that stuff. I mean even thinking about movie does. You know, I didn't. I hadn't really even a movie like five years ago, I didn't know what the movie was
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, and I'm gonna leave those are like just everywhere, so it's
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Hong Lieu: It's kind of this just keeping up with these food trends and keeping up with what people are eating like it's kind of cool, you're on the phone lines that you go on these places you see what's on the menu and you feel people are eating.
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Hong Lieu: It's nice to be up on these kind of things and kill given us that that like advanced like insider knowledge. I appreciate it. Because yeah, I've been hearing about beating around with my friends in LA and
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Hong Lieu: It reminds me a lot of the cookie taco, you know, the Korean taco.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, take the Korean BBQ the tree marinated beef.
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Hong Lieu: Added to a taco and it's fusion, but it's fusion. That makes sense within, within the culture because you grew up eating Korean BBQ you grew up eating tacos. It's like it just makes sense together. You grew up eating ramen. You grew up eating Vidya
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Hong Lieu: It makes sense because consummate is just like really clean really delicious broth talking about chicken soup consummated just boil, boil the heck out of whatever protein, you're boiling yet that stock and it's just, yeah, it's, it's, it's all good. Awesome.
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Akil: You know another thing too, that's it's really cool is I really enjoys is just seeing the different trends of food and how they explode on the scene and
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Akil: It just shows different depths of people's cultures. You know what I mean, like, I remember for a long while, you know, when sushi was in and then now all of a sudden
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Akil: Rahman's and right and then the same thing with, you know, Mexican food, like, you know, it just shows the depth. Everything is not always a burrito or taco. You know, I mean, like, there's other different
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Akil: facets of the culture. And so right now it seems like video is actually in I'm not gonna even front. I think I've tried three different fruit checks. I know.
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Akil: I know I tried three different videos from three different food check. So I definitely
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Akil: I definitely know that it's in. And so I met in light of covert and then light of supporting you know i would say local business but you know obviously auction is not local. But just the fact that, you know, moms and pops shops, it's, it's worth, it's definitely worth it.
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Akil: And is it and you know you both. You guys know I'm not gonna steer you wrong.
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Akil: Vanessa you last week, you're talking about the yellow whisper and how I told you to
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Akil: When you're went to England. It was that you went
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Vanessa Pelton: Oh my gosh, but I did the same thing for Vanessa when she went to Ireland.
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Akil: I was like,
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Akil: Okay, let me look up a couple spots for
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Akil: You
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Vanessa Pelton: He did. And my dad said it was the best places every
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Vanessa Pelton: random place outside of Dublin called the butcher shop and
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Vanessa Pelton: Found it on Yelp. It was like, we went and it was great. And then I was also thinking when you were talking to kill us when we were traveling last year for the recruitment there.
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Vanessa Pelton: How he would go on Yelp every day to find like Where should we go for lunch and find these like hole in the wall random places that yeah we're all local little spots, but they were all good. Hey Cuban we had
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah yeah
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Akil: Yeah, we are we are we are Cuban I think we had been to me. We had Mexican
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, and I brought you to one of my favorite
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Akil: Spot. Yeah.
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Akil: Oh, yeah.
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Vanessa Pelton: For the name now. Oh, so good though.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, the iceberg Yelp whispers undefeated.
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Akil: 95 1000 you know so
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Hong Lieu: My, my question is, what was all the beater you've tried before. Have you had that has there been lamb and goat.
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Akil: And other stuff too. Yeah. Yeah. But mixture. Some of its beef. Last night was beef. I think one spot. I went to, I think, actually, was actually go but uh, you know, I must have my goat lamb sheep beef. Beef. It's all good. Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Definitely, definitely missing missing some of the activities right tacos in LA and stuff like that. But I haven't been able to see this Elliot's alone, but hopefully soon plan the curve will get there.
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Akil: Yes, absolutely.
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Hong Lieu: All right, great, great choices. I'm definitely hungry after listening to all that hungry and thinking about how misplaced. Some of my Chinese Russians are but
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Hong Lieu: They were all great. My son's turned out great. So they definitely
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Hong Lieu: The good luck on it.
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Hong Lieu: They did work. So as we move on to our, our picks for the week.
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Hong Lieu: Vanessa. You want to start us off again.
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Vanessa Pelton: About my my show is
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Hong Lieu: So, yeah.
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Vanessa Pelton: I'm not a big like movie person. I'm not
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Vanessa Pelton: But I have, you know, been sucked into the whole Netflix, Hulu or HBO world. So I've been definitely binge watching some series over this covert time so it's my outlet at night and but the most recent one that I just finished, which I was so sad about was insecure.
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Vanessa Pelton: And I was messaging, my brother, a couple of, like, I don't know, a couple months ago, I guess I'm like, give me a good series like I need something new.
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Vanessa Pelton: And I googled it. I was like, Okay, what's a good series because I like something a little more upbeat fun just something to kind of take me away for more from the world.
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Vanessa Pelton: But it was great. It was a great series and made me laugh. It may be like relive my college day. I don't know. It just was fun. It was light hearted. I felt like, oh yeah, I can totally get into the show.
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Vanessa Pelton: Likes the characters, the cast. They did a great job. It was a fun. A good series. But like I said, I got caught up and then now I'm really sad because now
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Vanessa Pelton: They're recording
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Hong Lieu: I never caught up. I'm I think I'm in the middle of season just started Season three, I finished like the first
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Vanessa Pelton: two seasons, but
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, great show. I mean captures like the that like kind of mysterious the ambiguity of your mid to late 20s pretty well.
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Hong Lieu: And also if you don't know la they hit a lot of great la spot.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, where they eat.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, right, where they hang out.
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I mean, yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Really, really nice little snapshots of La as as it as it is. Or as it was, you know, pre clothing, because some of those some of those restaurants. Seems like those tables are too close together. No, no, you know,
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Vanessa Pelton: Now, and
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Hong Lieu: Then
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Vanessa Pelton: Interesting because when I got caught up, be at the end. The last season was actually with Kobe's passing. So, it is like right up to date and speed and. But yeah, it was, it was a good series or I hope you know, who knows it will continue but
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Akil: Yeah, I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan. We watch that here and I really like ISA
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Akil: It's really I there's such a relate ability
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Akil: To her character into a role like
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Akil: And one other thing, another plug about the show that is super great is the music, the music. They always are playing some like great hidden track in there and and I really liked that dynamic, I was thinking about this. My. Okay, who's my favorite character, but
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Akil: It's really interesting to see her relationship with Molly. THAT'S ONE OF HER BEST FRIENDS AND
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Akil: How there's like, it's so funny. It's so spot on how when you form new friendships with other people and then you're older friends, a little bit salty that, you know, I mean, so then it's like that kind of dynamic is is going on and
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Akil: You know, just, I think, I think there's a lot of things that people can relate to.
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Akil: In it.
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Hong Lieu: I agree.
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Vanessa Pelton: Being a woman and being humble. Yeah, I like watching her relationship dynamics with men and her friends her girlfriends. Like, it's just the
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Vanessa Pelton: Engine. And it's, it is it's so real. It's so relatable and that's what I enjoyed
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Hong Lieu: I wish conversations. My friends were in that vein, a little more often.
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Hong Lieu: I mean, my friends. I mean, they're my day ones I've known her forever. But we're never that deep, you know, like, I mean, we don't really get that in depth, they're able to break situations down and go ins and outs. I'm where I mean
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Hong Lieu: Not to say it's it's it we get we garner our meaning from the surface level conversations that we have
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Hong Lieu: I mean, I don't know, maybe it's just maybe just my friends. Maybe it's a guy thing. I don't know, but I feel like
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Hong Lieu: I feel like the way the conversations or approach. There are just so more all encompassing and like holistic in terms of how they approach, how they talk about situation and stuff where
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Hong Lieu: I'm just like, oh you doing that. Oh, that's cool. I'm doing this. Oh, that sounds pretty good. Why don't you do with that, you know, like it's
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Hong Lieu: It's very kind of sequence like it's more process based so i i gave me some like aspirations in terms of how I approach.
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Hong Lieu: To please. Well, but also it's because yeah they're pulling their pull up their extracting a lot. I mean, it makes the conversation is really heavy and all times, but at the same time.
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Hong Lieu: It's pretty meaningful, you know, so
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Akil: I can, I can tell you the group of friends. I went to high school with, it's literally just like that and there's certain characters. I remember, remind me of, oh, that's like this person.
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Akil: Or he's kind of like that person, but the conversation is definitely on on part of that with that you know like it really fits in the wheelhouse of how my friendship are with a lot of
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Akil: My friends, you know, just the depths and you know the light heartedness, it can be funny. A lot of the times, but at any given moment someone can ask a direct question and everyone. Next thing you know everyone's philosophizing about, you know, what's wrong with you know
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Akil: You know what's wrong with what's going on in the world. You know, so it's it's it's it's it's pretty spot on.
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, I agree. And I have my close like core girlfriend group from colleges like five of us and we have those same dynamics. I mean, it's like, so to me it was so, so to a tee with each little dynamic. Yeah.
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Vanessa Pelton: I liked it. I liked it. I wish I didn't watch it so quickly.
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Vanessa Pelton: But I did.
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Vanessa Pelton: I did start a new one. I started a high fidelity.
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Hong Lieu: Now, oh yeah.
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Yeah, well,
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Vanessa Pelton: I love her. She's yeah and I and again great music, talk about really good music again.
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah.
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Akil: You gotta check out the shy tho. You gotta watch the shy, ch, ch, I the shy.
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Akil: Showtime Showtime.
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Showtime.
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Hong Lieu: My gap to. No, no, no. Showtime you
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Akil: Guys.
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Akil: You guys are you sleeping.
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Vanessa Pelton: Okay well may have to
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Vanessa Pelton: Have been jumping on my sister's accounts. So maybe she has
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Akil: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Great pic great pic. All right, I'll go next, I'm keeping in the light hearted TV fair. I was thinking about shows that I watched while we've been on the stay at home and I finished both Star Wars animated series Star Wars. The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels
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Hong Lieu: There. I mean, probably for kids. But in terms of fleshing out the Star Wars universe and all the stories.
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Hong Lieu: In terms of the prequels and stuff. They did a great job and
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Hong Lieu: The person who did those shows Dave Filoni is also doing the man DeLorean. So everyone that watches them and DeLorean.
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Hong Lieu: The stories are tying in so it's if you want a refresher kind of what's going on and all the prequel stuff.
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Hong Lieu: And need to know kind of some of the pieces that are in place for them and Lauren as well then Star Wars Clone Wars and rebels are, you know,
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Hong Lieu: Good choices solid Star Wars is kind of, at this point, kind of over saturated, but when I was growing up, Star Wars was not that there wasn't that much there. There was a big gap between Return of the Jedi and Phantom Menace.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, there wasn't much except toys. So I didn't. I wasn't like super inundated with Star Wars and it was kind of this like underground thing for the kids who are still into it so
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Hong Lieu: I got into it via the books and the comics Dark Horse Comics and a lot of great Star Wars stories and they had expanded universe stuff which is now supposedly not canon, but it was still good reading
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Hong Lieu: So yeah, I've, I've came to Star Wars kind of late in the game in terms of fandom, but it's
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Hong Lieu: Been enjoyable. It's good definitely a good way to pass the time. It's nothing to kind of intense or anything like that, because they're essentially kind of kids shows, but they do go you know cross a lot of topics and it's good stuff. Definitely.
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Akil: Well, I mean, you know, since we're talking about dating ourselves. I mean, Star Wars was totally my wheelhouse. When I was younger, so yeah. But I, you know, I'll be I'll be full, I'll be honest, like I kind of fell off. I think after like return the Jedi. I just, I kind of lost interest.
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Akil: In it, so. But yeah, man, I wish I had more to offer to the conversation.
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Hong Lieu: And the
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Hong Lieu: The prequels, I mean the prequels are not great movies sequel movies are pretty good there. Okay. I mean, but in terms of fleshing out the world because
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Hong Lieu: I mean you you watch the movies and you're a kid, you're like, oh, he's the best movies ever made. And you have to
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Hong Lieu: Do a lot of film you know film studying this thing like okay there's there's okay you know but
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Hong Lieu: At the same time, what did you, what did we fall in love as as kids, it was, it wasn't necessarily the film itself, but the world and the the mythos, and I know that the hero story with Joseph Campbell and all that stuff. So
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Hong Lieu: That is still there. And that is still kind of the these animated shows do carry that torch.
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Hong Lieu: So you do have a you know a lot of the same kind of pieces are in place so it does kind of
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Hong Lieu: scratch that itch very well and and it's something that in terms of binge watching a show you just put it on the background.
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Hong Lieu: It's not some, you have to be super invested in, like, like a watchman or something where you have to, you really do have to watch every single scene.
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Hong Lieu: This is something you put in the background glance way. It's like, what's like a baseball game, you talked about earlier graduate glance back it's there. So,
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Hong Lieu: Yeah i would i and if you do like Star Wars. I mean, it's it you can really get really intensive in it as well. But I'm not at that point in my life anymore. Like it with with the family and stuff like
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Hong Lieu: I, my time is kind of pretty scatterbrained so it's, I don't have time to have these deep like
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Hong Lieu: infatuations with things like I used to when I was younger. So it's kind of made me think about that a little bit as well where
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Hong Lieu: I'm still. I'm glad I'm still able to catch up and know about the little story beats, but I'm not rewriting like fanfiction and stuff when I'm you know in my spare time or something like that. So,
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Hong Lieu: It's kind of a interesting kind of place to be. But, but the mandolin really took off so
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Hong Lieu: A lot of folks were asking questions about what certain things, man. Like the last scene of the show and this and that. So,
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Hong Lieu: Strong the animated series does fill in some of those gaps. There's, there's an arc with them.
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Hong Lieu: They called the father of the daughter and son, which is like the core of the light side dark side, you know, struggle is explored in the Clone Wars show so
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Hong Lieu: If any of that stuff is kind of interesting, then you can just seek out those specific episodes, but in general is just a good watch. It's a solid show like light hearted kind of
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Akil: Mean I just remember when I was a kid and
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Akil: I remember seeing Lando
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Akil: And I was like, I thought that that was like that was a memorable moment because I'm like, Okay, here's a black character.
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Akil: And it was Billy Dee Williams, you know, my pops kind of remind me and Billy Dee Williams. I was like, I think I was into it because of that a little bit too, you know. So, but
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Hong Lieu: And then he was a character that double cross. And I was like, no.
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Akil: Yeah yeah redeem yourself.
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Hong Lieu: Yourself himself.
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Akil: He did resume so
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah, my favorite Star Wars is a different language me. I have never gotten into it. It's not my thing. You guys are targeting
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Akil: Which is care well
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Hong Lieu: Absolutely, sir.
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Akil: Myself, which
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Vanessa Pelton: My sister loved it. I just, yeah. It was not my thing. I'm not a big sci fi person. I'm not like into. So for me it was like that. Yeah.
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Akil: You better, you may end up getting
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Akil: Into that so your days are numbered on that.
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Akil: We should start watching right now.
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Vanessa Pelton: I was already thinking that that's exactly what I just thought, I'm like, I could change a couple years.
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Akil: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, it depends. It depends on on his friends and like
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Hong Lieu: There weren't a certain shirt. They got some fly, she's on with certain characters on her then.
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Hong Lieu: When you're done. That's how that's how I got stuck in a, what is it the
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Hong Lieu: Go man. Oh remember the names, but
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Hong Lieu: There's a few few
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Hong Lieu: PJ max.
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Akil: Know,
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Akil: A man, a man, a man
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Hong Lieu: Good man.
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Akil: Yes.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, his friends were talking about PJ Masks and so yeah the show on and yep
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Akil: It's a wrap. Night go
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Akil: GEICO Lorena Falcon.
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Akil: Get go
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Akil: Is it Michael
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Vanessa Pelton: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: And in terms of if he does get into Star Wars and those animated series are a good good starting off. Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: You don't want to start with the prequels. Yeah, good. Do the prequels last because that's some rough dialogue lot of green screen. Yes.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah coolers and rebels. They're both they're both solid
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And
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Hong Lieu: Absolutely.
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Akil: So I'm going to change it up a little bit. And again, full disclosure, I thought, you know, I thought, hon. You're going to talk about watchman so I
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Akil: Watched Watchmen and then I know
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Akil: Vanessa was like, Oh, I'm gonna do insecure. Alright, cool. I don't really need to talk about anything because I'm just gonna add to the conversation and so
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Akil: Then, it sounds like, no, you got to bring some and so I'm thinking like, okay, what am I going to say or what show whatever I've been watching and I'm gonna have to say like
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Akil: This is kind of low on the totem pole of TV and TV watching. So this is not anything that's going to stimulate you and meet you
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Akil: Like ponder your existence or anything profound. But I will say my show that I have been watching all through Korean team through and through more than one night a week and I partially blame this because my wife. She got some he's living in the slums is 90 day fiance.
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Akil: Go straight up it Days Way.
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Akil: She got to be flown over here, she got to be slimming over here. You're just full disclosure on that. It's not by my choices.
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Akil: Family time
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Akil: This is this is time spent to, you know, being together so she has me on this 90 day fiance both way.
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Akil: You know,
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Hong Lieu: I, I was married at first sight run for a while and we are that too. But yeah that's that's that's Wednesday nights.
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Akil: That's Wednesday nights.
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Hong Lieu: And let's and let's let's be honest, you know need for disclaimers, you know, culture is culture, whatever, whatever were around whatever wherever influences us where we think about where we're watching
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Hong Lieu: I mean it all in parts of little bit of wisdom, some nuggets are larger than others, but you can't just count one piece of the culture over another. You know, like they do we really believe in equity right
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Hong Lieu: We believe in all things.
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Hong Lieu: You know, like
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Akil: Oh, so if you believe in equity, you gotta watch 90 days. Oh.
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Hong Lieu: No, we just
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Hong Lieu: Look at things with an equitable lands and terms.
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Akil: Yes, yes.
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Hong Lieu: That they provide it may not be exactly equal but we can buffer things here and there, buffer. Buffer, the things we do afterwards or beforehand to supplement the value that we are extracting that given amount of time. Right, so
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Akil: Yes 90 day fiance. I forget there's so many. I don't even know. I've watched. I watched a
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Akil: Number to fit into the Philippines. Right now there's a there's like three or four characters. One is a once in Jordan.
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Akil: Jordan, there's one that's in Ethiopia. There's so i mean i don't know i don't wanna
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Akil: I don't want to go up to anyone's else thinking. So don't, I'm not saying go watch the show, but I'm saying that's what I'm watching right now.
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Hong Lieu: Which is which is fair enough. And I'm curious. Is it is it that they know that they're going to be found at the start and then 90 days to kind of figure it out or
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Hong Lieu: You get to choose at the end of the 90 days like
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Vanessa Pelton: Disclaimer. I have watched it.
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Okay.
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Vanessa Pelton: I know the storyline.
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Akil: Yeah, so their data basically dating and then they got 90 days to decide if you're gonna if it's gonna work or not see
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Hong Lieu: That's fair. I feel like 90 days is enough time. I mean, it's not enough time to get to know someone completely
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Hong Lieu: But you should kind of have an inkling whether you know where you like married at first sight, that's, that's just pure torture, like right like you never seen never see each other and they're legally married, you know, that's that. I was like, whoa, this is crazy.
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Hong Lieu: But I feel like any days and
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Hong Lieu: You know you. There's actually an evaluation period. I mean, that's, you know, that's a little fair than some yeah I can see that working
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Hong Lieu: I've never seen it but yeah
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Hong Lieu: Check it out.
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Akil: Oh, he's coming to the slug.
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Hong Lieu: Hey, I'm not if
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Akil: I don't if I don't get anyone ever to watch the show from listening this podcast. My job's done
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Akil: This one is going to go watch it it's it's a wrap, do my job is finished. Sure.
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Hong Lieu: I've always been happy to take, take the one take one for the team in that respect. But you get a piece of popcorn. Step on it, I'll eat that thing right away to keep someone else doing it. So yeah, but
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Akil: But it is interesting to look at the show and you can definitely see the cultural differences. All right. Right. So in a lot of in a lot of the most cases the
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Akil: The bride is American and then they're traveling abroad so you can see the different shift and cultures where they're like, We gotta get your mom's blessings
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Akil: And I'm like, yeah, I mean that's what people do in that region or part of the world and and it's a lot different from how people traditionally get married or
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Akil: here in the States where, you know, we all know that, you know, in most cases, or a lot of cases people day there with each other. In some cases,
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Akil: Most people move in together. And then, you know, like, so when the wedding comes. It's all basically as if they've already had been married, they just, they just need to do the vows.
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Akil: But these shows are really interesting because you know they got to talk to their parents. They gotta get the mothers blessings. It's, it's always the mother that they need it seek and get the blessings from it. It's hardly ever about, you know, I need to get my father's
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Akil: Permission. It's always a mother's so it's it's really, it's interesting is, in some ways, but in other ways.
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Akil: Um, I cannot believe I'm watching this
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Hong Lieu: And it does kind of tie in it's like insecure insecurities or relationships one angle 90 fiance's like the release your process distilled into that.
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Akil: Yes, yes.
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Hong Lieu: That's America for side is do. It's like the marriage distilled. I feel like murder for side is too much distillation, where it's totally just throws everything out of whack. But I feel like 90 days is you know that's that's a reasonable testing period so
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Akil: I mean, some people have to stay inside for 100 days on you know like 90 days. I don't know. I don't know.
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Hong Lieu: Hey, stay inside for 30 days and buzz your head after
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Akil: Nice man, you get a red a red egg and ginger party after
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Akil: Say, let's do it.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. And on that note, yeah.
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Hong Lieu: That brings us to the end of another episode of SPC but kiddo voices. Thank you, Vanessa so much
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Akil: Does something you so much. Vanessa for for coming on and sharing your experiences and and it was a lot of fun and so
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Hong Lieu: advocate a welcome is the 21st next Friday yeah week from tomorrow.
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Vanessa Pelton: So thank you for having me. This was a fun conversation something a little fun like we were actually in a real world like sitting down and talking with you.
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Akil: Yeah.
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Nice break from reality.
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Hong Lieu: Yes. So thank you very much. Yes, we could have welcome august 21 any other plugs for we go Vanessa farmer anything else.
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Vanessa Pelton: I know if you need help with registration, you can go to the Carroll access days any enrollment help and visit our website for more information.
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Hong Lieu: spc.edu slash Enrollment Services. They do have peer chat running so you can chat with them at any time if they're not staff in chat. You can send them an email and
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Hong Lieu: Yes, thank you very much again. Thank you. Keel is always
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Akil: Loving you
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Akil: Thank you, as well.
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Akil: Just want to give us
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Akil: Destroying the people to like hopefully
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Akil: We're going to continue to
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Akil: Interview people or bring people along for the next for a couple more weeks about the student service. So what we're trying to do right now is we're trying to
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Akil: Be intentional about interviewing people that work in the students service building as the semester is starting to start up so that way that our viewers can listen to
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Akil: Things that are relevant to getting enrolled and and and and and getting these things met so hopefully we can continue that next week.
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Akil: Let's see.
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Akil: We have
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Akil: In a wings to be interesting.
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Hong Lieu: Stay tuned. Thank you all for tuning in. And thank you again. Vanessa and till next time, take care.
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Hong Lieu: All right. Bye bye.
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Bye.