JennyErika Barco from the Transfer Center joins Akil and Hong to talk about how the Transfer Center helps students meet their transfer goals, and then discusses her own journey to SBCC; from there, the group discuss Caldo de Res, Winter Melon Soup, Ghormeh Sabzi, the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Doom Patrol, and John Coltrane's "Alabama."
Mentioned in this episode:
SBCC Transfer Center - https://www.sbcc.edu/transfercenter/
TAP Program - https://www.sbcc.edu/tap/
Transfer Academy - https://www.sbcc.edu/transferacademy/
TAG (Transfer Academy Guarantee) - https://www.sbcc.edu/transferacademy/tag.php
Transfer Days, College Nights/Transfer Connection - https://www.sbcc.edu/transfer-connection/
Caldo de Res - https://whatscookingamerica.net/soup/caldoderes-mexicanbeefsoup.htm
Winter Melon Soup - https://tasteasianfood.com/winter-melon-soup/
Taste of Tehran - https://tasteoftehran.com/
Ghormeh Sabzi - https://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/1020209-khoresh-e-ghormeh-sabzi-persian-herb-bean-and-lamb-stew
Platanos Fritos - https://www.laylita.com/recipes/fried-ripe-plantains-or-platanos-fritos/
Corazon Cocina - https://corazoncocinasb.com/
Marvel Cinematic Universe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Cinematic_Universe
Doom Patrol (Grant Morrison Run) - https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/04/doom-patrol/360616/
Alabama by John Coltrane - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saN1BwlxJxA
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Hong Lieu: Hello and welcome to another episode of SPC but kiddo voices a podcast highlighting the unique voices that comprise our campus culture and how we're all working together to serve our students in the community at large, as usual, I'm driving my co host to kill hill.
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Hong Lieu: A and today we are honored to welcome Jenny Erica barkow to the show. Welcome.
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Akil Hill: Welcome, Jenny. Erica.
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JennyErika: Hello, gentlemen, so nice to be able to hear some amazing voices and thank you for thinking about us and I'm excited. I'm so excited.
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Hong Lieu: And so your title this year's changed a little bit. There have been some kind of shifting around at the Transfer Center. And so you are co department head or how does that organization kind of shifted this year or
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JennyErika: Yes. So we've been privileged, given the opportunity to lead the transfer centers. So, Angela. Warren and myself are co directors of the Transfer Center.
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JennyErika: But that's also on top of our responsibilities with our programs. And so it's it's definitely going to be an amazing journey we're going to learn a lot and
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JennyErika: Collaborate so we're excited for this new role that we have taken on definitely the sky's the limit. At this point, so we're excited super excited
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Hong Lieu: And for folks who don't know, I mean the transfer sending you kind of get an idea what's going on in terms of helping students transfer and things of that. But in terms of your individual programs like
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Hong Lieu: Tip, which is a transfer achievement program and you have transfer Academy tag, which is transfer achievement guarantee or
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JennyErika: You can just kind of go through some of those
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, just kind of explain to folks with what each well what what area. Each one service for students and stuff like that.
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JennyErika: Yes, of course, in good question. So the Transfer Center is the hub or the place where students come to get informed on how to transfer
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JennyErika: So the process of transferring is the charge that the Transfer Center happens
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JennyErika: And so the the Transfer Center would be responsible for the workshops, or in this case webinars. So in this remote environment that we're in.
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JennyErika: We're looking at the webinars for the different applications I answering those questions that students might have about exploring those different options.
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JennyErika: New students and their families, wondering about what the transfer process might be. So a lot of those different services that students might be inquiring about as far as how does it work.
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JennyErika: Like for example, you mentioned tag and tag is more of an agreement that we have that SPC has with some of the institutions and in this case will be specific with the UCS
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JennyErika: That would be where tag would fit in.
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JennyErika: And and the transgendered would be able to provide students with the information at what to do, how to do it where to go kind of giving them that very robust service in understanding the process.
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JennyErika: So that would be the trust and I'm only giving a very quick summary and on the trash. So there's a lot more that that happens.
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JennyErika: But within the transfer standard. There are two transfer progress transfer Academy
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JennyErika: And the Top program. So that's the one that we are discussing today would end the one that I have also been coordinating
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JennyErika: And tap stands for the transfer achievement program. And it's a program that supports students who have a goal of transfer
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JennyErika: And our target population is all hundred percent of students who have that goal, who want to transfer who want to have that support and everyone knows it as tap but tap does stand for the transcript, but you've made progress.
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Hong Lieu: And so in terms of like can say when you say the tap is focused on underrepresented.
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Hong Lieu: Students, is there a certain way that you're able to kind of focus in on that audience versus a regular Transfer Center kind of visit
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Hong Lieu: Or is it just kind of vein have to know what they know about the program they reference the program when they come in and then you kind of funnel them that way and there's like additional kind of services you provide in that respect or yeah just
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JennyErika: I think so. Like right now, and it's probably been in the past. He gets a lot of word of mouth. A lot of
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JennyErika: referrals from counselors from from faculty from alumni from the program.
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JennyErika: When students come into the Transfer Center. That is one of the things that is provided for them. They are informed that these programs are available to them.
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JennyErika: So they do leave with that resource at hand when they visit the Transfer Center, and they're asking about what's offered. What can they do to start early. How do I prepare
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JennyErika: They leave with the information that these two programs exist and that they have the option of joining these programs. And so with top. I mean, anyone can join, so it's it's open to all students, but we do target the underrepresented populations who have that that strong desire.
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Akil Hill: That's good. Good. I have one question for you. I was thinking about, um, can you is there, what
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Akil Hill: Is there any like Miss conceived notions that are what are some of the misconceived notions that you see kind of the students actually entering the space and if, if so, can you clear some of those up kind of curious.
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Akil Hill: About like you're talking about underrepresented students. And so when they appear in those spaces. I'm kind of just curious to know what their thought process in transferring
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Akil Hill: Is like
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JennyErika: And I do want to, I want to understand the question. So I can answer it as best as I can. So what I hear you saying is, what are some of the ways that students can identify that
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JennyErika: Our programs would be would fit their needs.
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JennyErika: I feel that one of the ways that that happens is when students first enter the Transfer Center.
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JennyErika: The way that it's set up and this is visually when we were physically on campus students could see us right away. That was the number one thing. So when you walk by the first face you saw was me.
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JennyErika: I mean, you know, so sometimes students would walk directly into our office.
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JennyErika: And what we do is we just present the program this is who we are. This is who we represent this is who we target, but this is what we do and it's up to the student at that point to make that decision if they feel that our program fits their needs.
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JennyErika: So it's more about we let me hand I'm telling you what we do.
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JennyErika: Yeah, I'm giving you all the details how it works. What we do what we require once the student will join
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JennyErika: And as the student is listening to that information. They tend to be say like, Okay, you know what, this is what I need. I want this, I want to, I want to finish the process. I want to join.
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JennyErika: And there are some that would say, you know what, it's, it's cool. But you know what, I maybe, maybe I'll come back a little later. So
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JennyErika: That has happened not not too often. And most of the time, everyone that comes in stays with us so that's that's always a great, a great thing that we are able to
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JennyErika: Tell the students about about who type is and what we do and students respond to that.
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Akil Hill: Yes, you did.
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Hong Lieu: And and I guess I follow up question that is there some flexibility there in terms of new folks have to come in right when they're starting NSPCC or is it something where they can decide like a year in
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Hong Lieu: Or it's like they're a cut off point where like it's too late. I mean, for students coming in. What does that timeline like
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JennyErika: You know, this is one of those
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JennyErika: Kind of like what he was talking about those misconceptions are some of those myths and I with the little time that I've been at City College and and working with transfer students from the bottom up.
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JennyErika: I do feel that there's that misconception that joining a program related to transfer happens once they're about to apply.
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JennyErika: versus doing it as soon as or joining us soon as you get to the college so many times we will get students right now. Like, right now we're getting the students that are about to apply.
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JennyErika: But we would have preferred for them to have joined day one, because we were working with them building them up as they're moving forward, helping them understand the process.
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JennyErika: Opening up more options, more possibilities, because they're able to prepare for them versus the year that they're transferring some things might be a little too late to to pursue because now they have to add more requirements or more classes, depending on what those options are.
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JennyErika: Also, we like to build community. We like to build that transfer culture that that thinking about transfer
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JennyErika: So I came up with these two hashtags, you know, the first one was transfer now. So that's like the first one that's for Austin is to remember that if you get to SPC transfer starts. The moment you get there, or
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JennyErika: Starts the moment that you decide to transfer. That's when it starts, not when you're going to apply it started already. You just didn't know
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JennyErika: Transfer starts now is one of the hashtags that we have another hashtag that I thought of was think transfer. So
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JennyErika: In the time that you're in the program. That's what you're doing, you're thinking about transfer as you're moving forward. So as you're planning your classes you're thinking about transfer
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JennyErika: As you're exploring universities, you're thinking about transfer as you're building your skill set, you're thinking about transfer. So it's, it's a multi layered process that happens.
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JennyErika: And sometimes students are not aware of that, until they get to the Transfer Center.
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JennyErika: So until they start to actually apply, they're like oh my god I had have to do all of these different steps. And now I have to lump it into a semester and a half. And now I'm God.
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JennyErika: And that was it. Right. So equals really really quick. So those students really get a benefit out of joining tab when they do it their first semester.
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JennyErika: The first weeks as soon as they get there. It's just really, really awesome for us as a top team to get these new students because we really get to
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JennyErika: Bond with them. We get to know them very well. They get to know us, you know. And so you start building those networks and the students start building that network.
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JennyErika: And we start teaching them or coaching them on building those networks building those connections, having conversations that
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JennyErika: Probably won't happen in a normal setting, but because we're meeting with them consistently one session can be about their academic planning.
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JennyErika: Another session can be just about their university choices or I don't know what university. I'm thinking about, well, this miss explore that.
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JennyErika: And will help the students to understand that exploration process will discuss finances will discuss. I don't want to move away from home or I do want to move away from home, but how do I do that, you know, like what it, what are, what are my best ways of approaching that
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JennyErika: So that's just some of the talks we having the sessions.
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JennyErika: And then we'll expand a little more to provide workshops with some of those same relevant topics to make it a lot bigger to get students together. Students talking
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JennyErika: Seeing commonalities amongst each other and as they start talking about their own stories, their own challenges, their own
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JennyErika: Majors where they're digging of applying the start. Look, you know, like, Oh, there's my potential roommate. Oh there's someone I can start, you know, connecting with because they're going to this thing's going going to, so you're providing them that
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JennyErika: Space to build that connection to know that they're not alone in this process because, as you know, most of them are first generation, they're the first one going to college. It's a very daunting experience or thought that I'm the one who's going to pave the way for everybody else.
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JennyErika: So that gives them comfort someone start with them, a group of people is assisting them throughout this process. So definitely joining us from the beginning is very beneficial and it just helps
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JennyErika: To not feel alone in that transition because if we think about it, they're coming from high school that's transition number one.
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JennyErika: And then they're going to go through the college experience at City College to then go through that transition again when they transfer
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JennyErika: Second time that they go through that. So if they felt it a little daunting to be a freshman at City College.
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JennyErika: We don't want them to experience that same exact feeling when they transition again to where everything the same goal to. We want to be able to build them to have confidence to navigate confidence to ask
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JennyErika: Questions when they approached different offices.
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JennyErika: You know, different skills that you do need in order to not feel intimidated with the process or when you're told no once, then that's it. You're never going to go there again because they told me. No, I'm not going there ever again. So things like that do happen. And these are
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JennyErika: I, you know, things I know happen because i mean i worked out of university for for a long time and I would see that from transfer students, I would see that
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JennyErika: Students when I would finally get the master advisor and they would tell me their stories or their experiences.
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JennyErika: I would I would make. Wow. Like that's I'm glad you're here. Now let's figure this out. But it took them a couple people before they finally they found someone that they can really connect with and get them through it.
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JennyErika: But some of these students that I worked with before. Probably had dropped out based upcoming they just did not seek help anymore because of whatever
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JennyErika: Experience, they had, but it really takes that connection and I really feel that with tap. We provide students with that contact
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JennyErika: That they can feel comfortable to come to us, not just for academic planning, but for anything related to their transfer journey because this is a journey from the moment they get there to the moment that they transfer out we're with them throughout the entire entire time.
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Akil Hill: I was brilliantly said
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Akil Hill: There's some points in there that literally I was getting the chills.
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Akil Hill: It was like, it's literally like a holistic approach and guiding the students the hashtags were amazing.
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Akil Hill: I'm inspired I'm literally inspired by that.
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Hong Lieu: And and it really does hammer the importance of why you would start from day one with Transfer Center, because
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Akil Hill: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I mean as an 18 year 19 year old, maybe you have an idea of where you want to transfer to
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Hong Lieu: But then as you go to classes you maybe you want to switch majors. You want to go some of the different concentration
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Hong Lieu: Like you were saying maybe you meet somebody that you get along really well with you might want a room together at a school
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Hong Lieu: And it might be a different school than the one you were looking at. And all of a sudden your requirements have changed. And you have to take a bunch of different classes.
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Hong Lieu: So being involved with something like the Transfer Center where you can always have someone to ping back and forth with
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Hong Lieu: And just trade ideas with and say, Hey, I was going to go to a UC. Now, I might be going to Cal State out of things change.
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Hong Lieu: Now might be going out of state. Now I want to be, you know, I was going to go out of state. Now I want to go local because I want to save money because of residency. I mean, so much so much in flux at this age as a
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Hong Lieu: So trying to navigate that on your own. While it is possible. You can go online and look at all the requirements yourself.
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Hong Lieu: Having to wade through all that without any help can be daunting, like you said so. So it really does kind of hammer home that point.
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Hong Lieu: You should really come in day one of you have been even an inkling of an idea that you want to transfer somewhere.
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Hong Lieu: Absolutely, you should seek out help them find someone in the Transfer Center does sound like that's place because
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, that that idea of building community and finding something because yeah go on to school and that i mean
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Hong Lieu: Maybe you have some friends from high school, you come to City College with, but at the same time, you know, having finding that broader community or just
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Hong Lieu: Just latching on to somewhere that that is kind of on the same road is a path of view is very important. So that's, that's very well said.
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Akil Hill: Well, also, the, the piece to also, I found that was really appealing in moving to me is like, yeah, like let's say you come to City College. So many students do and they they're ready to transfer
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Akil Hill: And then they realize financially. How's it going to work, right. So you take all the classes you pass all your classes, you have the minimum, you have the GPA to get into the school, but your family's situation.
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Akil Hill: may determine where you go, or where you you know I mean like, so being mindful of that is super important. And I think that is the piece. And one of the the benefits. I love doing.
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Akil Hill: Working on the show is because I get to hear these different angles.
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Akil Hill: And so when I go out into the public or hot and I both go out to the public. We talked to people and they have a son or daughter that may be coming City College. You know, we can empower them by saying, look, you know,
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Akil Hill: First thing you gotta do is go to Transfer Center, you know, so that that was moving. I really enjoyed that. Yeah.
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JennyErika: I mean it's I I love what I do, you know, I love the students. We work with and to see students
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JennyErika: Get the benefit out of it it's it's so fulfilling at the end when we're at the recognition ceremony, because we do host a ceremony for our students and to see their parents to see
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JennyErika: The students just radiate, you know, I mean, I've done a radiant excited about their transfer choices and their journeys.
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JennyErika: To here. There's your testimonies of maybe being a single parent having to work full time to help their families.
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JennyErika: Be able to set that example for their for their for their young for their young ones coming behind them.
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JennyErika: It's nice, you know. So definitely, I will make sure that you two are invited to our recognition ceremony virtually it when it comes because it's so moving to hear their stories and to hear them.
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JennyErika: Be so proud of their accomplishment.
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JennyErika: Of where they decide to go, you know, and it is it is a journey. It is a struggle and the students are so resilient. They're so motivated. They want to get it done and with the support
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JennyErika: We launch them into that next phase. So we're literally that launching pad that just kind of kind of post some, I think I said that right into that next phase, you know, so
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JennyErika: And and that's what I've seen myself for from the beginning of my career is I have been that launching pad for a lot of for a lot of people in a lot of students.
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JennyErika: In just creating that space of C sip, whether you can do it this this is this is possible in just finding that right community.
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JennyErika: Where you fit feel that you belong. And when you create that in that that spirit or that space of being McGinnis for anyone, and they feel that they have the support it only builds their confidence, it only builds
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JennyErika: Confidence in their possibilities and what is, you know, impossible, they can do it because they know that
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JennyErika: There's people there that have their back. And even if it doesn't turn out the way that they want it, they know that they have us to come back and we'll
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JennyErika: Help them and continue helping them. It doesn't matter. We will continue moving forward. And one of the things I tell our students when they transfer in The Graduate, they go on to their next level and I say, look,
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JennyErika: We're here for you, even after you leave if you're at any institution, you can still reach out to us. If you find yourself in a position where maybe you don't know how to advocate, you don't know how to ask that question, we will still guide you through that.
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JennyErika: And if something does go maybe not the way you wanted to. Don't be embarrassed, we're still here.
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JennyErika: That's what we're here for. We're here to empower you no matter where you are in your journey. So it's still, it's ongoing even after they leave. So, even after they leave. We still hear back from our alumni.
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Hong Lieu: And I feel like that is important because if you're talking about underrepresented first generation students. I mean, I know personally my
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Hong Lieu: If I need to help with an application or this and I couldn't go to my parents, you know, like all they could, they could sign this the slip that if they had assigned something but they couldn't advise me on anything.
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Hong Lieu: So in terms of what I had to do. I had older sister. So I was lucky for that. But then other than that it was just peers peers and then the staff equity wherever I was so
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Hong Lieu: Being there for them in these kind of times when maybe parents might not be might not be there to advise them in terms of these kinds of situations transfer situations. Higher Education situations. I mean that's that's important. And that's very, very crucial to the process for sure. Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: So, I mean, I guess part of this in these in these cover times. I mean, things have shifted a little bit. And one of the things that has shifted for the transmission of this year is your
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Hong Lieu: Transfer days in college night's event. Is it always been called that or is this just this year. It's called. That is it.
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JennyErika: So the, the THE COLLEGE FAIR was transferring data.
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JennyErika: And then that and then that night, then that would be college night for the high schoolers, who would go and visit the college reps. It was pretty much a two for one
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JennyErika: For the college reps, but daytime was our transfer day and then you would have it hosted at one of the high schools.
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JennyErika: So for this for this time around. It's a transfer connection and we sent out those emails to celebrate campus weeks, which includes the three systems. The three major systems.
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JennyErika: The UCS which already happened in beginning of September, the private and Independent Colleges. We just finished yesterday.
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JennyErika: All that information and families and students are welcome to attend these
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JennyErika: Especially if those seeds are the popular ones that a lot of people will be attending and, I believe, at the end of the month, which is October 26 through the 28th, that would be
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JennyErika: Connection transfer connection live with SBC and that will be for the three days. The three events that's going to be happening panelists from different areas, I think, is a sneak peek. Not sure if I'm supposed to say this or not my contract, they're gonna come and get me and I'm kidding.
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JennyErika: It's going to be a good, a good three days to hear the different panelists and get the experience from students who just transferring are currently at the different institutions and even get their feedback on you know what they're experiencing with this current a remote situation.
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Hong Lieu: So it's, it's been a good pivot, because I know I help I help get to some of the web pages up and going for transfer connection and some of the registration links. I do know that some of the registrations are are do not have a cap.
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Hong Lieu: So depending on the school. Some of them are limited presentation.
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Hong Lieu: But there are some of them that are like 250 or 500,000 which, when you talk about a program that serves you know how many community colleges all over the state and all over the country.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, you probably want to sign up if you're if there's a certain school you're interested in. So yeah ccc.edu
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Hong Lieu: Slash transfer dash connection or if you just Google transfer connection. It'll, it'll pop up. But yeah, it's been a nice, it's been a quick
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Hong Lieu: Pivot for y'all, I'm sure where you figure out. You want to do it, you got it done and done a great job. It's pretty well organized all the schools are covered. You see CSU is full participation. So
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Hong Lieu: Kudos to you all for getting that done and getting it online so quickly, you know, doing such a good job and and having all the information there.
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JennyErika: All right, first review. Yay.
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Akil Hill: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: This is the person who built the website. Great job, five stars.
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Akil Hill: Five stars. It's always five stars five stars.
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Hong Lieu: I mean it. I mean, I do think it's nice because, yeah, in terms of how to get all that stuff done logistically, you know, before it's
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Hong Lieu: Nice to be on West Campus and everything set up that was probably a lot to put on, but even now getting on waiting for information to come in.
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Hong Lieu: And you, we have to you have to repackage it and present it to where things are somewhat easy to find and in a, in a way that kind of makes sense for students who are just starting school and have a whole bunch of stuff going on on their own. So
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, it probably was a lot going on on the back.
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JennyErika: I know when I first signed up for. So I was like, oh my god. Okay.
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JennyErika: How are we going to organize this and the next date.
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JennyErika: It was done, I was like, Okay, I'm like, thank you. Haha.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, I mean, it was it's it's
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Hong Lieu: I didn't transfer. Personally, I just went straight to the for your school, but I'm praying to the gods that my son goes to City College and transfers from there because
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Hong Lieu: The promise, combined with you know this stuff like tag a guaranteed admission to UC or CSU is just, it just makes too much sense not to do.
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Hong Lieu: You know, like, for me personally, I was a pretty terrible students. So, I mean, there's no guarantee. I would have gotten out of City College.
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Hong Lieu: But for him who I might actually be able to concentrate and focus on things, I think, yeah, it just just doesn't make much sense, not so an event like this. We right up his alley in 12 years or so 1213 years
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Akil Hill: I'm gonna have to
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Akil Hill: lose my daughter and I have a daughter 16 she's a junior she goes to Kate and so she's that she's gonna be crossing that bridge. Pretty soon. So yeah, I meant, that's kind of where I agree completely with that I had been taking her to those wouldn't they're out
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Akil Hill: You know, take her into campus on on these certain events when you guys were on West Campus right used to be on what's campus or wasn't it
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Akil Hill: Yeah I would always kind of just pick her up real quick walk, let her walk through, see all the different schools and it's such an apparent to
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Akil Hill: You know, do or take your child or someone who, you know, at an early age, they can see that, you know, it's part of envisioning, you know, like planting the seed within them, you know, so
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Akil Hill: Yeah, to make her log on this year.
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JennyErika: It's always good. Like, and I think you brought up a good point, when you expose, expose students, your, your children, your teams to that environment, it's, it's already embedded into them, you know,
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JennyErika: It's yeah so that's good. Yeah. So I would always get excited with the yes you know I bought my kid. It's like their newborn and you buy them like the little ones already with a college name on it and everything.
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JennyErika: Here, you know, from from the beginning, you know, kind of like trying for now it's like as soon as your baby comes out. Okay. Where are you going, you
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JennyErika: Know, or how do we prep you for for that and obviously we do want to present that option for everyone and everyone should have an opportunity to make that that choice and have that opportunity to to to attend a University College of their choice when they're at that point.
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Akil Hill: That's so true. I mean, I, I can only, like, you know, when we talk about marginalized communities and people of color and a lot of that is just not even
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Akil Hill: Having the vision to actually see themselves at these institutions, these four year colleges and graduating with a degree.
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Akil Hill: A lot of people are just happy to get by with the high school diploma and and you know, and rightfully so, like where their moms and pops or blue collar workers or they're grinding and the only thing that they know is just work hard.
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Akil Hill: You know, it's hard for the for the son or daughter to envision themselves there, you know, and that's why I
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Akil Hill: You know, have so much respect for you and and the Transfer Center, because it is putting are instilling that like, look, you deserve to be here. You deserve this opportunity, you're worthy.
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Akil Hill: And we see you and respect you. And so that's an important piece of empowering our students to think like you know that they are worthy and they are capable and
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Akil Hill: You know, to rise above the imposter syndrome where they don't think that they're worthy, you know, because it's true. A lot of people, you know, I know a lot of people, you know,
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Akil Hill: It had been traumatized from an early age in the school systems as well. You know, so when they graduate from the high school. They're like,
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Akil Hill: Either I get a job or I go to college, but they're not really confident and going to college because they they've been traumatized all through high school and elementary, you know. And so how do we address their needs, you know,
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JennyErika: Yeah and you know your excellent points and many times you walk into any institution and
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JennyErika: It's their own expectations that I have to do this and I'm going to do this by myself, because that's what they've been doing, you know, they believe in spite themselves.
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JennyErika: How you mentioned there was no help on your end, from your family because you know it's different. Right. So our students, most of them. Same thing, you have the language barrier.
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JennyErika: That parents are home or not home because they're working or they don't understand how that process works. Oh, you're going to transfer. Cool. All right, you know,
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JennyErika: It says, as far as a goal. So the student already faces and knows that they have to do this by themselves. So when they get to any new institution.
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JennyErika: To find help. It's not part of the plan, you know, it's not part of the process, because I've already been doing it up to now, and it's not that they don't want the help. It's
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JennyErika: It's, it's not part of what they've been doing in the air at the long run. So when we're working with them. That's one thing we tried to teach them that
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JennyErika: You could do this by yourself, but why not have someone help you with the load you need that assistance you need that help you meet the faculty, you need the counselors.
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JennyErika: You need places where you feel safe to go into your homework, you do have the tutors or other big thing that we do is we connect them with other resources that they probably would not think about
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JennyErika: Who are kind of intimidated to do or do I really need to do that. So we do really like to focus on connecting them with those other institution resources and one of those is the career center right so if it's difficult for students sometimes to seek academic counseling.
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JennyErika: Career counseling. You know, it's they probably don't even think about it because they're not there yet.
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JennyErika: So when I talk to students, many times I will let them know and say, Hey, you know, would you visit the Career Center, and there they will. I'm not looking for a job yet. I'm like,
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JennyErika: But you want to be informed, though, you want to learn, you want to, you want to have more options on the career that you have chosen or that you're thinking about or you may not know about so
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JennyErika: For our students. We've made it a requirement that they need to meet with a career counselor at least once a year.
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JennyErika: So we just feel that it's important that they can make that connection because if they meet with a career counselor here at City College.
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JennyErika: They're most likely to meet with a career counselor when they go to the four year university.
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JennyErika: They're going to go into the center, they're going to go in and because they already did it here. They're going to know that they need that support once they get there.
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JennyErika: So that's always been one of our goals is to always help them anticipate always help them plan ahead, be a step ahead of yourself.
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JennyErika: If you know you're going to graduating or get a job. You should have your resume done prior to that it should just be brushing it up when you're about to go to the interview, not have all that done right before you go into it right so
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JennyErika: It's always about that planning ahead planning ahead so connecting them with all the different resources. So it's exciting to be able to then see them when they light up, and you're like, you're right. Can we do the appointment right now. Sure, let's go on and do
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JennyErika: You know, and go, go ahead and they'll do it. And now I'll navigate them go here, go there and they've met with me and tomorrow, they're going to meet now with the carrier accounts or so to me, I'm like check got them to do with, you know, so
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JennyErika: Nice to them see them understand the why and then wanting to do it, versus a feeling like I have to do it. Yeah, that's it.
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Hong Lieu: I mean I can definitely vouch for that because when I first when I started at Cal Poly. I was, you know, I was failing classes I was in deep water and I didn't go for help because
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Hong Lieu: You know, it was one of those things where you almost didn't want to inconvenience, folks, but you also didn't want to like stick out and like kind of take advantage. I mean,
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Hong Lieu: It felt like I was inconveniencing folks. Whenever I would go in to like certain building certain offices to ask for help. I mean even going office hours, my professor, I'd always be like, Oh man, that guy was just relaxing now he's got to help me out. And I'm totally lost. Still, and I
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Hong Lieu: You know, you're like you're inconveniencing folks. So kind of building that skill set of asking for help is a big deal because you know i mean me growing up. It was like
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Hong Lieu: I don't need. I don't need anyone's help I can take care of this. I got this. I got this. I got this, you're so used to doing things I'm
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Hong Lieu: so used to just just maintaining and handling, quote unquote, and so when you're actually in deep water. I was struggling. It was bad.
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Hong Lieu: I mean, and even then I didn't ask for help and I just kind of I worked my way out of it, actually. But, I mean, that's a different story altogether. But yeah, so when you speak to that idea of
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Hong Lieu: Getting people used to asking for help and the fact that the staff and the, you know, everyone at City College is here for you.
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Hong Lieu: It's, it's kind of a message that takes a little while to get through, but when it does, it does feel good and it's very, you know, self affirming for yourself. I'm sure
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Akil Hill: Yeah, yeah. And that's the piece that I feel that it's culturally to write because you feel like you don't want to
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Akil Hill: Think that way, whereas other people may be conditioned to think that look or are know that look that person is there to serve you, they're gonna they're collecting a
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Akil Hill: Paycheck they're here to work for you or with you to reach your goals and that's been instilled with them at an early age to. So again, I mean, that's the piece of it that you know when we talk about a holistic
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Akil Hill: Approach on teaching our students and guiding our students to getting them to transfer that piece is very critical. You know, so
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JennyErika: In that also, you know, it's amazing when you see students grow into that you know that they know that that's what they've struggled with. And when it lights up in them to like I can advocate for myself.
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JennyErika: And we even we reach out to our faculty to come in to speak to our top students. One of those is Jason Suarez, he is from the history department.
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JennyErika: And he talks to them about bringing equity to yourself, you do that, you need to be also the ones to advocate for yourself as a student.
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JennyErika: In order to open up these different opportunities different options like sitting in the front, knowing who you Professor is
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JennyErika: When you don't understand something, how you want to approach your instructor and ask for that assistance, how you want to ask those questions because it is important to know that you also have a part in that equity.
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JennyErika: You want to bring that in for yourself. So, you know, so we also definitely try to bring these different topics to our tap students
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JennyErika: So they can grow into becoming that advocate for themselves college success series on how to approach. Once you transfer. How do you navigate that.
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JennyErika: We want them to learn how to explore
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JennyErika: Their different University options. So, you know, we definitely are always trying to be innovative, when it comes to our topics. I try not to repeat the same things over because I know that if I had a student last year.
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JennyErika: They're going to be here again this year. So I don't want to be repetitive. So it does take some
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JennyErika: Coordinate will not some, it takes a lot of coordination to then kind of think about, okay, how do I
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JennyErika: Take the topics from last year because I know there's going to be a huge amount of students are going to continue with us. But then you have the newer ones coming. So we do have this
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JennyErika: You know, coordination of how do we navigate the topic. So it's not repetitive and students always have new content to learn. So we're consistently updating
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JennyErika: Changing creating new workshops or topics activities because we know that it's not the same as some of them are going to be the same students. So how do we how do we manage that.
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JennyErika: So it's, it takes the coordination, but, you know, we get we make it happen in our students are very responsive to our workshops. So I'm always very happy to see them when when we're able to physically see them right now through zoom
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JennyErika: It's always nice to see other faces there and then you just, you know, you do what we're doing right now and it's it's a beautiful thing to have students asked questions feel comfortable to
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JennyErika: Interact with their speaker so it's definitely a nice addition to have to give our students an opportunity to learn something new, learn about the process as well as see other tab. Students are in there saying journey.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, if that didn't convince everybody in the SPC community that the transfer centers and essential piece City College bubble
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Hong Lieu: I don't think there's anything else.
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Hong Lieu: Anything else we can do for you. Yes. Yeah. From day one.
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JennyErika: We're in a super simple, like you said, because all you need to do is come to transfer center and asked what programs are there in the center and then from there we'll tell you we have transfer achievement program.
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JennyErika: And we have transfer Academy and then the students can explore both and make their decision or do both, you know, so definitely we have the amazing transfer resources for students that they can just take advantage as soon as they stepped in to City College. Because transfer starts now.
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Akil Hill: Hashtag
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Akil Hill: So,
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Hong Lieu: So, I mean, I guess you reinforce that SPC is grateful to have you, Jenny. Erica, but we will now segue into our second piece of what what brought you to SPC EXACTLY WHAT WHAT KIND OF HOW DID YOU GET HERE.
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JennyErika: Hydro non kidding.
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Akil Hill: I know you didn't find parking
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JennyErika: Well, I'm originally from South Central Los Angeles. So, Miss South Central girl me. And while on my last year of my doctorate of the doctorate program.
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JennyErika: We were encouraged to start looking for leadership roles. The they said, you know, the whole reason why you're in this program is because you're learning leadership skills you're learning about, you know, all of this.
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JennyErika: All of these skills for you to go out into the community and be at the table and be able to provide that support.
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JennyErika: So in my journey of applying to the different opportunities.
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JennyErika: Okay, I applied and on May I met on May 4
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JennyErika: That was the day I got the phone call. And while I can save some from there the rest is history. I'm here. You know, so
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JennyErika: One of the things I can say that after I made the decision to
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JennyErika: take on this role, everything was divinely orchestrated and I not that he was easy, but things just started kind of aligning themselves to where I knew that this was my next step. So I do strongly believe that I was meant to be here.
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JennyErika: In so far, you know, I've been embraced by, you know, the transgender staff is so many different people how welcome me to the neighborhood as they would say,
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JennyErika: So it was just amazing. You know, it was from from being at
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JennyErika: The institution that I was before I was at Cal State University, Los Angeles as a student did all my studies there from my undergrad masters, including the doctorate.
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JennyErika: That's over 20 years that I spent there. That was pretty much my early adulthood. That's pretty much where he was
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JennyErika: All the networks were there the skills that I learned the mentors that I had and the experiences that I had with the students there. You know, I was able to
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JennyErika: From the first time freshman will arrive to the transfer students to arrive. I mean, I did all those different fields orientation recruitment admissions evaluations. So I kind of really knew that process that students would go through and into that phase.
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JennyErika: And then later in my last row as an advisor, you know, getting the doctor to me was important. It was what I had in it was one of my goals.
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JennyErika: And and to also empower the Latino community. The Latinas behind me that, hey, if you want to get go for a doctorate, go for it. You can do it, you know, this is
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JennyErika: It's, it's an. It's an honor to be able to represent the community when I'm out. And I can say, You know, I'm Dr. Jenny Eric Markel and to see the younger Latinas, they're like your doctor. It's like humbly. Yes.
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JennyErika: Yes.
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JennyErika: I remember we were you know on the last campus trip THAT WE WERE ON BEFORE Kobe. We were on a visiting on a campus. And one of the students did ask me say, you know, I've never
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JennyErika: I've never met a Latina doctor before like I have not been this close to someone that I feel comfortable talking to and social that can you tell me how that what that journey was like
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JennyErika: And so, you know, and it's true that, you know, many times in our communities. We don't have people that we can look up to that we can comfortably go to an ask
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JennyErika: What it's like to go through a doctorate program program. What's it like to go through a master's program. What are the challenges that you go through for those degrees.
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JennyErika: And I look at my experience. I didn't have no one either, you know, I jumped on the horse, not knowing
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JennyErika: You know, and when I look at the challenges on my man. If I would have known, I would have prepared different
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JennyErika: I would have looked at different resources, but I didn't know you know so you go in there, blind me but you do it, you go through the obstacles and
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JennyErika: So it's an honor to be at City College and represent the transfer achievement program and be able to help the students be a role model and
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JennyErika: Guide, the team that is part of our program. So definitely a shout out to the top team to Julio louder public Melissa who make it all possible with us as well as Matthew was part of our teams so shout out to you all and I am so lucky that I have them as a team. So I am the lucky one
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Akil Hill: Nice.
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Hong Lieu: I mean, that is a good point. You bring about certain folks not thinking that they belong in college or, you know, stuff like that, because I know folks that I grew up with.
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Hong Lieu: I mean, I grew up.
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Hong Lieu: From early age. My parents didn't go to college. My sisters and my parents in but they were always hammer that home. Want to go, you know, go for this go for that.
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Hong Lieu: But I go to friends houses, they're like, Yeah, I'm gonna get a job after high school. I know, I know. That's what I'm going to do. And it just one of those things where
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Hong Lieu: If you know you did you have to kind of just be a be open to the idea and look into it and then realize like, yeah, call it is for everybody. Whether you just get a certificate
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Hong Lieu: Whether you transfer, whether you do it i mean it's it's it's a part of that live. I mean, and then and then you get the other side of it is
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Hong Lieu: Depending where you grew up, you get drawn in by the streetlight folks on the books on the block, making
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Hong Lieu: Four or five times the money or even when I need some folks and I was in college, even making this much money working at a restaurant.
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Hong Lieu: It's like I should just drop out, go work in a restaurant. Look at his money, you know, like, like that draws there but
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Hong Lieu: But then the law, you don't think about the long term aspects of it at certain ages, like I was never
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Hong Lieu: Thinking about the long term effects of being on the block. I was just looking at the money coming in or are those entry level jobs and restaurants like
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Hong Lieu: Oh my god, you're making 40 50,000 a year. That's unbelievable. For a person whose parents combine didn't make maybe 3035 a year, you know, so
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Hong Lieu: It's one of those things where that draws air and you just think automatically like oh that's not for me I should just do this, but
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Hong Lieu: I mean at in once you get around to it and they all end up going to school. Afterwards, as well as in three you look back and you're like, you know, it really does unlock things in you.
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Hong Lieu: No matter what you're doing it for whether you're doing it for a better job or just to enrich yourself and you know kind of expand your mind, so to speak.
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Hong Lieu: I mean colleges for everyone. And that's kind of where I wish our outreach was a little better for in general is just trying to trying to get to the streets, a little more like the
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Hong Lieu: Like the life of some folks in the street like would be enhanced so much just by a couple certifications, or I'm not talking about, you know,
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Hong Lieu: Go here to transfer going to do that. Just get a certification and get an IT certification. Get a you know hotel culinary certification and just try that for a while because the money ends up being pretty good there too. So, but it's
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Hong Lieu: Somewhere. Yeah, exactly. Just try it. I mean, because, because a lot of times, as you hit one wall me it's a failure thing you fail, and you want to you pivot and do something else.
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Hong Lieu: But it's this idea of failing better every time you know you fail, you hit a wall.
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Hong Lieu: Tried come back. Hit it again if you get over that it. That's the motivator. When you succeed at something that you failed at before. That's the great motivator.
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Hong Lieu: And that's what a lot of folks don't give don't open themselves up to that opportunity.
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Hong Lieu: They fail and they're either ashamed or embarrassed or whatever it is, and they feel like they have to pivot to something that they want. They can be instantly successful at
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Hong Lieu: And the instant success is yeah, there's no long term you know benefits to that amount of time. So yeah, it's, it's nice to hear that you you stuck with it and went all the way you know
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Akil Hill: Yeah, or they don't even try. I mean, I think there's, there's, there's an element of
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Akil Hill: That is, there were people don't truly apply themselves one because it's not seen as being widely accepted, or two, or Fear Of just not being able to do it in. And that's and that's that's a real thing, you know. So, and South Central
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Akil Hill: Shout out.
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Akil Hill: Shout out to South Central man.
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JennyErika: Remind High School.
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Hong Lieu: Oh, yeah.
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Hong Lieu: I mean, yeah.
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Hong Lieu: And I went to Cal State LA to I in seventh grade, I went to summer school calculated college classes.
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Hong Lieu: And to tell you what what that effect has none of my friends were asked me about going to college, all my friends wanted me to try to buy cigarettes. But the idea that I got.
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Hong Lieu: Because it didn't have an age on it like to college and you go by secret that liquor store and you'd be surprised how often that works for the record.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah.
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Akil Hill: Yeah, don't give it
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Akil Hill: If they're in college students listening. Don't try that, dude.
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Hong Lieu: Know if you're talking to a 13 year old kid.
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Akil Hill: You know,
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Hong Lieu: I waited seventh grade.
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Akil Hill: Eighth grade.
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Hong Lieu: I'm an eighth grade showing kids my college ID. They're like, they're not looking at me like,
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Hong Lieu: Oh, I want to go take college classes I wanted, I wanted to get some credit. They're like, hey, you can probably buy cigarettes or that ID, man. I'm like, ah, and then it's like, I was like, ah, but the other side was like, Okay, I'll try and it worked, you know,
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Akil Hill: The night, this must have in the 90s.
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Hong Lieu: Oh yeah, oh yeah, before they put all those stickers like
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Hong Lieu: Well, this year. Don't even ask, you know, this, this is, this is just the the East LA kids being like, Oh, man, you finally have some US Hong. Let's
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JennyErika: You know what hung. If you were to go back to me today. It is so different than what it was back in the 90s. I mean it is in you can't recognize that campus to what it is today. It's they've built a lot of different building. So yeah, it's a pretty I'm pretty proud.
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Hong Lieu: I'm pretty proud of man and they deserve it, because, in turn, you know, the first Chicano Studies Program. And, you know, in the nation and
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Hong Lieu: Kathie Lee is slept done as a as a Cal State, but even
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Hong Lieu: When I went there. It was it was it was a great place for me to go to school and you know get an idea and they had and they had a food truck on campus, along with the cafeteria, so is my first time like
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Hong Lieu: Being a quote unquote grown up, being able to get my own lunch. I wasn't just straight up, you know, something that they like a Panda Express and like a food truck. I was like, this is amazing man. This is what college is like
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Hong Lieu: So it was one of those experiences that like like hammered home how much more independent, for you are like i was i would tell people stories like
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Hong Lieu: You don't have to go to school, they don't take attendance. It's incredible. You know, like if you do the work. You're good. You know, like it was it did plant that seed in the back of my head that I wanted to come back to school.
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JennyErika: So let me just refresh your memory. So wasn't Johnny's kitchen that the
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Hong Lieu: Oh, yeah.
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JennyErika: Well, let me tell you he he now has the restaurant inside the food court.
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Hong Lieu: Oh really,
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Akil Hill: I've got it.
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Hong Lieu: Cuz I mean yeah I WAS JUST I WAS JUST GETTING breakfast burritos, because there was like there was like the three or $4 option, mom. My mom will give you five bucks for food. So I had to like make it
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JennyErika: To bring in food Mediterranean food. By the way, I kill so it was there still there is still there. So if you ever go back. He has his own restaurant. It's there. Johnny's kitchen.
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Akil Hill: strategize kitchen.
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JennyErika: And then he would not he would know my order. I'll get there. He's like, I didn't have to worry wait in line. They can just put up like thank you, Johnny. Thank you.
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JennyErika: Now I'm giving him a plug, so I'm
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Hong Lieu: perfect segue into our next section, which is our food, our food section for this episode. You want to lead us off to New year ago or
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JennyErika: Sure.
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JennyErika: Yeah, since I guess guess schools first right
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Hong Lieu: But you've been you've been killing it. So far so
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Hong Lieu: Good building
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JennyErika: You to ever need to take a break from the
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Akil Hill: Mayor my melon. My earphones right now dude. Send me your address.
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JennyErika: Well you know I we grew up in a very
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JennyErika: working class family. And so there was a lot of home cooking involved and we didn't really have the means to, you know, go out to sit to restaurants.
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JennyErika: But I could say, my mom was the best Central American cook I've ever had. I mean, I've tasted a lot of different things from other other places but hers.
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JennyErika: And the favorite dish that she would always do. And I always asked for my birthday is called address, which in English, it would be big beef stew.
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JennyErika: So it's, it's pretty much exactly what it what the beef stew is, but it's, it has that Central American twist to it where
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JennyErika: They add additional spices and herbs and the service with white rice on the side, but I like to put it inside
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JennyErika: So I like the I like the rice in the soup to where it actually there's more rights than soup. So I'm always the weird one. I mean, it's very soupy very Stewie but I'm like I'm always kind of more racing is just the rice in there and it's just comfort food to me.
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JennyErika: I can have this to
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JennyErika: Carlos Perez with 30 years without party. Yes.
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JennyErika: But it's just the smell of this of this do that when you walk in the house or just like as we're having today, like it's you know what potatoes, you have potatoes, carrots.
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JennyErika: Long green thing.
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JennyErika: Celery celery and then you have the big chunks of beef in there that is just so delicious with lime and with salt.
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JennyErika: Your tea and you just kind of crumble. That would be in there and with they feel the steam and the smell. You can put some Tabasco sauce on that. But the on there and you get your spoon and just enjoy that, you know, and you just have conversation with lawyers at the table.
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JennyErika: But every birthday. My birthday falls in March. So that's kind of little cool hot depending on the day. My mom said get curious for your birthday.
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JennyErika: I mean you know it, and she'll do that, you know, and I know something my siblings and I really, again, I'm like, it's my birthday. We're having a little okay
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JennyErika: That's, that's what we're having. So it's these two for me, guys. It's nice to
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Hong Lieu: Know, and I mean
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Hong Lieu: I know nothing touches mom's cooking. Have you found any call goes in town. Any restaurants that you can order and that they're like, get the job done in terms of that craving or is it just like not touching mom's cooking, no matter what.
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JennyErika: It does it you know i think is, is that homie mommy loves taste that. That's just not there.
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JennyErika: Yeah, yeah, I really do feel it's kind of like the movie right like water.
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JennyErika: For chocolate, chocolate, Eric. It's a transmit that emotion transmits through cooking and I've told my mom, many times I've tried to do it twice.
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JennyErika: With her recipe her teaching me to do it, and I'm like, What's missing, like, I don't know, you know, in it. I don't know if it's just practice, but the first time I did. I was like, you know, it's good. But it's not good. Like there's something missing.
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JennyErika: But I want to say and I annoy answer my own questions. So I'm sorry I that I
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JennyErika: Know you guys are probably trying to add, and I'm just like answering them.
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JennyErika: I remember the first time I cook this meet the condo. It was when I had first moved out. So, and, and I cooked it in one, it takes a long time to make this gotta go. Okay. I mean, it was literally almost my entire afternoon. THAT WAS IT JUST DOING THIS, THIS CONDO
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JennyErika: And I did too much. I did like a whole I did what she said. But I forgot that she was making it for 10 people I'm one so I pretty much just follow the instruction. So I was like, How am I going to finish this. There's no way I'm gonna be eating gado for two months.
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JennyErika: So I invited my my siblings over and they ate it. They're like, oh, it's good. They're like that something's missing. I'm like,
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JennyErika: I'm like, it's because it's not Mom, it's, it's that moms are so no Hon. I have not found a gala that can give me that magic or that love that comes from, from the home cooked meals.
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Akil Hill: I don't think you ever well
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Akil Hill: It's just, it's just one of those things like when it's like generational is passed down and she's you know put her time in like you gotta like
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Akil Hill: Most type of recipes, you have to literally just put make over and over and over and over. I'm curious to know, is the meat of what type I'm it's beef. Right. So is it does it have, is it just strictly chunks of beef or does it have that gelatinous kind of
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Akil Hill: You know that good stuff.
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JennyErika: So when I see her buy it and I see
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JennyErika: It out. She has I think she buys to two kinds, she buys proceed to the rest, which is the sharks.
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JennyErika: And then she buys the bones with the rest of the stuff separate so she buys all of that good stuff in there so I'm like, because I remember asking her when she was training me
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JennyErika: She says, you know, you need to buy both Simon what you just buy the Meech sick because the flavor is here this
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JennyErika: Is from, you know, like you got to make sure that the bone has all of that.
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JennyErika: So it's actually you have to, you know, Duncan do all the stuff and then she went taught me how to do broth. After that, I forgot how
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JennyErika: how that process works though, but she did teach me that I'm like, wow, like you just did the stew and you still did extra breath for something else. You know, so, but she uses both of them together.
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Akil Hill: Nice.
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Hong Lieu: And and with with putting down recipes. I mean, you know, it's hard when you've been making some of your whole life and yours eyeballing everything thrown at him if he had to like actually write down a recipe.
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Hong Lieu: Either intentionally left stuff off or there's just stuff that was just like, you know, you can't really
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Hong Lieu: Know like like I put this much salt and let's just call it a teaspoon. I put this much.
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Akil Hill: As much
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Hong Lieu: Herbs in let's just call it, you know.
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Hong Lieu: I think about that all the time like the stuff I cook it just like throw it in a shake it around so for me to kind of break that break it down into a recipe is like, I don't know. Wouldn't it be hard to translate it would
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JennyErika: Show up like this and I know the audience can see it, but she like you wouldn't put this much salt issue like use her fingers and I'm like, what, how much is that
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Hong Lieu: You know, yeah.
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JennyErika: where she'll do this. She'll get her to fit her first fingers and she goes, This is how much salt you need. And I'm like, Okay, that's okay. I got you.
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Hong Lieu: Okay, so then you
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JennyErika: Go right you just guess from there, but it's it's just an is their technique and how beautiful they they put this masterpiece together, you know, and I some as a kid I would observe her cooking.
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JennyErika: And the love that she would put into it, even though she was busy, but you could tell that there was this passion even and how they chop the vegetables like there's this method in in how they're doing it.
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JennyErika: Everything's nicely said we had a very tiny kitchen, but I'm like okay I can identify where all the veggies are and then I will be. Oh, she's going to add that stuff to it. You know, there was like always.
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JennyErika: There as a kid. There's only certain veggies you just don't like
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JennyErika: But then I grew to like all of them because it's just how the flavors just melt together. But yeah, it's, it's just your right to kill is it's
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JennyErika: The it's the magic of love that that they combine in there and and the practice because eventually. I mean, when I have my family I money to invest the love into that. So, you know, it all goes into that.
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Yes.
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Hong Lieu: It'll be its own chain you don't branch for can you have your own style, which is pretty good, but not quite. Touching moms.
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Hong Lieu: That's, that's perfectly fine, you know,
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Hong Lieu: I will say,
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JennyErika: Sometimes a button mess with my brother's wife, and I'm like a not like my mom's
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Hong Lieu: And she knows she
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Akil Hill: knows, she knows. Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: You know you with that.
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Hong Lieu: I will say, I've had a pretty good Colorado. That is, they do a color. The postcards to at the top of the bakery on the east side of town.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, so the color of the Pisco is catfish, which I wasn't prepared for at the time, but then when I had, I was like oh works pretty good definitely add some flavor to the broth.
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Hong Lieu: But I mean yeah not touching junior because Mom's recipe. But if you prefer hot soup that has, you know, PC stock kind of notes to it and
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Hong Lieu: Then, and it comes with. They do the handmade tortillas there. So the 30s or like a thicker variety and the it soaks in a while, but I haven't had it with rice and as someone who loves rice and soup. That seems like the way to go for sure.
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JennyErika: Yes, you can. I mean, I think God. I mean, if you're looking for real comfort on a day, adding that rice just makes it happen. So yeah, you need to add rice to any soup you have you got it. You got to do it.
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Hong Lieu: Excellent. Alright, Akil you me. I guess I'll go, I'll go next. Since my my choice kind of piggybacks engineer. Cuz, cuz cuz she didn't mention before we got together that she was going to call those. So I want to do a soup of my
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Hong Lieu: Okay, my family's that
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Hong Lieu: I grew up eating as well. I when we first got as long as I can remember, we were in LA for a little apartment.
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Hong Lieu: And then we got a house when I was in high school, but we were all there. My mom was always asking, you know, talking about space when I had space. I'm gonna do this when I see somebody that and she wanted to have a garden.
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Hong Lieu: So when we finally got her how she got her garden and the first thing that she grew. I was thinking, once you get across. You can talk about the guard forever.
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Hong Lieu: I mean, she would grow a little things in our apartment, but it was like back by the clothesline. So I was like one little thing either. She was are these winter melons i don't know if i don't know i
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Hong Lieu: Guess. They're called watermelons are like these green long squashy melons that have like these first sharp free things on them.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, they're free and there, but it's like a staple kind of produce piece and she would make winter melons soup and watermelon soup is like her. Her thing my whole family like
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Hong Lieu: My mom her sister, the most of the family when they have any kind of space. They grow winter melons, they go watermelons that girl pummelos stuff like that and
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Hong Lieu: As long as I can remember. Giant winter melons being stashed in my kitchen and just saved.
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Hong Lieu: And you cut off a few pieces, mix it with soup. It's a pork based broth that she would do. She would use like spare ribs or some kind of
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Hong Lieu: thing like that and she would make a profit poor had Winter Melon throw a couple goji berries or other stuff in there to flavor. And now, is it now is we would eat that with rice all the time to wear out. I'm like Eugenio right throw the rice in the soup.
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Hong Lieu: But it's the kind of thing where if you let it sit for too long and the righteous blowouts and it just
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Akil Hill: Becomes
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Hong Lieu: The bounces off and you have to add more stock or or take some of the rice out. But yeah, I have very fond memories of winning relatives. You'd also do like a carrot soup in a similar way.
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Hong Lieu: Which you would do a pork pork Prof. Again, sorry keel.
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Hong Lieu: to deport Roth and just throw carrots and stuff in there. Yeah. The, the winner mountains, who can and and it's one of those things that
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Hong Lieu: Just like, like you said, no one makes it like mom makes it like when I go to restaurants they do have Winter Melon stupid.
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Hong Lieu: The flavor of the melon itself adds a lot to the broth, like a lot of folks focus on the meat element of the stock, you know, the chicken. Will you chicken broth or pork, beef broth.
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Hong Lieu: The, the meat notes really kind of come out when you when you have it at restaurants and the watermelon takes a backseat, but the the Winter Melon itself adds like this kind of
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Hong Lieu: This like just slightly just earthy kind of flavor to the broth. It's really important. And that's something that
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Hong Lieu: No one else really does when I go to restaurants, because they don't put enough watermelon in there because the ones you get at the store are kind of small. I mean, I guess that's normal size, but the way my mom would grow.
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Hong Lieu: They be huge you know they're they're like, Yeah, they're like the size of my leg. You know, the kind of thing.
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Hong Lieu: And the one you know it's just
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Hong Lieu: Literally, my, my grandma would would. So these like harnesses, like, you know, can they grow on a vine.
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Hong Lieu: So she would make these harnesses with Elasticsearch and the minute one would would would show up Sheet Set it up with the harness. So it starts getting bigger. It would rest on the hardest. So when just fall off the vine.
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Hong Lieu: So that's what makes him so big. So, like the ones you get sore probably this is grown in a big plot. And then when they fall off. They fall off these harnesses would keep them on the line so long and they get
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Hong Lieu: Huge and just like discussing the large sometimes, but because you have if you have one or two of those. You can eat for a whole season. So it's one of those like
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Hong Lieu: One of those things that it was just crazy. Like the house where you ended up. I had a swimming pool.
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Hong Lieu: Now within the first two or three years, they'd fill the swimming pool filled it full of dirt just turned it into a garden because, yeah, they don't want to deal with the inconvenience of the pool, and they also wanted a garden really bad and yeah we got winter melons and and it was. Yeah.
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Akil Hill: Shout outs of grammar for engineering on that, man.
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Akil Hill: That's all. Yeah, that's an engineering right there.
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Hong Lieu: He's always crack jokes. And my grandma out there in the garden harnessing the melons up when they see the giant mail is about. Okay, I get it, I get it now.
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Akil Hill: Nice.
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Hong Lieu: Article what you got.
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Akil Hill: So I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to a spot in Westwood.
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Akil Hill: It's called taste of her on
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Akil Hill: It's a Persian restaurant. And so I'm gonna go prison today and
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Akil Hill: It's not, it's not too far from East LA. So if you're ever done in that area, or you can actually Yelp it
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Akil Hill: One of the, one of my favorite Persian restaurants, the chef was
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Akil Hill: On that show on Top Chef.
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Akil Hill: So,
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Akil Hill: I think she was actually a winner one year. So the chef is is kind of like
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Akil Hill: She's, you know, kind of known. So this is her little spot. It's a little kind of stand up and there's a spots to a couple spots to eat to sit down. I mean, this is a but now obviously coven that's not
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Akil Hill: Probably you know I think their dining outside but it's called taste of Toronto and the dish that I'm going to talk about. It's called. It's one of my favorites called
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Akil Hill: Gourmet Z. I think that's the proper way of pronouncing eskandari may have to check me on that. But it's a Persian dish in it literally
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Akil Hill: Gourmet and and Farsi means stew and z is actually means green. So it's green suit. That's the little literally the translation, but it's a an herb stew and it consists of like parsley leaks green onions cilantro.
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Akil Hill: And usually, kidney beans like red kidney beans.
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Akil Hill: And like dry line. And it's one of those comfort a winner type food. It's super it's really popular in Iran, and I believe in actually in Iraq to they serve it there, but
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Akil Hill: It's just one of those like we're, you know, we're talking about comfort home, something that tastes like home. It's one of those dishes that just
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Akil Hill: It's just when you taste it just feels like you're home again, you know, and I was actually turned on to the dish by my wife and she grew up eating it.
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Akil Hill: I actually
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Akil Hill: Had never tried it, although I you know I spent a lot of time in places with, you know, I kind of navigate some circles because I'm Muslim, with people from Iran, but I had never tried it.
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Akil Hill: And I tried it maybe about a year or so ago and I've been kind of eating it on the right, where ever since. So if you're ever down in the Westwood area.
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Akil Hill: You got to stop there. It's definitely worth the try as well as anything else on that menu, like the kebabs are really good and everyone knows I present food for the you know the
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Akil Hill: beef and chicken kebab or the lamp kebab but this dish right here. The stews, any kind of stew present so you can't really go wrong with
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Akil Hill: There's another one that I really like. It's called fussing June, which is really good as well but government is it is the way to go. You just get your rice and just like what you're saying just mix it with the rice and the stew and it's really some good stuff there.
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JennyErika: Would you say that it spicy.
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Akil Hill: It's not spicy. It's just, it's really earthy and there's, it's a little bit sour because it has the dry lime in there.
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Akil Hill: So it's a little bit sour, but it is, it is. Like no joke. It's like one of those dishes that you're like, Okay, I'm coming back for that. It's actually really healthy to since it's you know that it's or base. And so if you're trying to watch what you're eating.
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Akil Hill: During the quarantine. This is something that can be on the menu as well because it's definitely a low carb and it's healthy. And usually they put a beef in it as well. Sometimes they make it with lamb as well. But the phenomenally
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Akil Hill: Meat that's in it is beef and it's usually kind of like a stew beef without bone. So you have those those shreds and
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Akil Hill: Beef in there and it's like, you know, it's just, it's just straight out goodness so taste of Toronto. Shout out to Persian food to
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Akil Hill: Their culture and what they've presented to the world and stuff. So that's, that's my my food pick for this show.
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JennyErika: I'm going to like break protocol.
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JennyErika: But we are talking about comfort food and I think I had mentioned one more.
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JennyErika: I love Latin those Fritos
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Akil Hill: Oh, yes.
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JennyErika: Right plan team. And so in the discussion of comfort food. I remember when I had spoken to her. And I was like, I mean, that is one of my
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JennyErika: Favorite if not my ultimate to music desert. I know for most Central Americans. It's part of a meal, but I like it as a dessert and I will have
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JennyErika: Not to fried not to like just medium, just get that perfect medium Chris to that Friday. Let them know
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JennyErika: You add that sour cream and this is my addition to that sugar to the sour cream and then you did you just take that blood thinning dip it in there.
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JennyErika: With your morning coffee. I mean, that could be breakfast right there and I anytime I can go to any store and even if the bluffton was $1 50 I will buy it.
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JennyErika: It's rare that you will find that huge Chris
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JennyErika: Latham. Do they are super pricey but
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JennyErika: I mean, when I do find them out by three, four. I'll bring them in. I will eat one every morning because it's just comfort me just quickly just gives you that energy that you need. But fried plantain those is totally up my alley.
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Akil Hill: You know who makes a good one. There's. What's the spot in the public market. The cortisone. What's it called
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Hong Lieu: Oh yes cortisone.
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Akil Hill: Yeah, it's called us. Oh, no. I think it's something that place. They're the they're amazing. They're and they give you black beans with a little bit of cheese, man. I don't know if you haven't
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Akil Hill: If you haven't tried to you gotta check it out.
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JennyErika: I didn't know that they had it on their menus.
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JennyErika: I'll bring my own sour cream, though.
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Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, I came to plantings late in my life. It was actually because when I was working in Santa Monica.
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Hong Lieu: When I'm working Activision when you go down to Venice, they have the Cuban restaurants there. And then you have the Brazilian block on Venice.
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Hong Lieu: We're all the Brazilian restaurant to do plateaus and all the Cuban places. So I was like, Oh man, this is really good. I mean, it's just
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Hong Lieu: Because it's one of the things where the planting. You kind of have to cook it. No one eats raw plantations. Right, so it was one of those mysterious things where you see bananas.
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JennyErika: I do eat raw
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Hong Lieu: Okay, so it is
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Akil Hill: The first person.
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Akil Hill: I've ever heard that.
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JennyErika: Maybe they don't test, they don't try, but when it's right in that it's not too bright, and it's not too green. It's very beautiful frying, please, that it is it sweet. So my mother told me that as a little two year old. I would eat three bloody nose in
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JennyErika: Raw like not cook it was like, So literally, there was this love for planting from my early childhood.
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JennyErika: So she would tell me what you would eat three three black on those in the day when I had him home. So they were raw not cooked, but I will eat. I will chop them up and just as I'm about to fry them out about a good five pieces on my own. So I, I am your first. Rock eater.
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Akil Hill: Hey, you guys. You guys are listening, those who are tuning in. If you ever indebted to Jenny Erica brain come with the platter knows. All right.
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Akil Hill: That's what you got to do just drop them off.
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, you know. Yeah, I was thinking you'd have to come with the cast iron first give them a good good on each side know just
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Akil Hill: Just, just dropping off do in the bag.
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Akil Hill: Paper plastic. She doesn't discriminate
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Hong Lieu: Oh, no, no, no.
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Hong Lieu: Still paper. Let's keep the micro plastics do
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Hong Lieu: Alright.
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Hong Lieu: Moving on to our culture section.
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Hong Lieu: And I feel like Jr. Thank you for doing so well for us, you should you should kick it off again, cuz
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Hong Lieu: That's
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JennyErika: Good. All right. So you know I
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JennyErika: Growing up I was so busy with school trying to get through a lot of different projects as as a young, young adult, I really didn't have much time to watch TV.
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JennyErika: So I missed out on a lot of movies. So a lot of people will always be talking them down. You know, if not snippets here snippets there, but I've never really
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JennyErika: had an opportunity to just enjoy and say, You know what, I'm going to go watch this movie so recently I've started to kind of on the weekend. I tried to catch up on movies or or upon whatever I can.
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JennyErika: So just last month I just finished watching all of the Marvel movies, not just last week. I mean, it's been a while. It's been like maybe a year where I've been trying to just catch up.
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JennyErika: Yeah, so finally I watched. I kind of bounced out of order, I was not interested in watching at men are the wasp. But then I was like, wait a minute, what do I have to lose. It's already a Netflix. Just watch them. I love them.
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JennyErika: They were awesome. I was like, could not
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JennyErika: Believe, how much I like these two movies.
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JennyErika: Like I couldn't get in, I don't think, yeah, I just could not. I was like, You know what, I, I really judge the movie bites title. So I was guilty of that. But as I watched it, I fell in love. And I was like, this is why I love Marvel movies because it combines the action with the comedy.
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JennyErika: I really love the fashion that they use. I look at the the cinema that the semi tog RAFI, THAT'S IT. I MEAN, I look at all of those details. So I just I enjoyed the storylines again I'd the comedy I i'm I'm very much into that kind of
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JennyErika: That kind of thing. I love comedy movies. But these two just combine the action and the comedy together.
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JennyErika: But all of the Marvel movies. I loved my ultimate favorite is for
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JennyErika: And
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JennyErika: They're just all funny. I am sad but I sit there and I just, I'm just waiting for the funny part to come out. I just, yeah. Enjoy.
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JennyErika: Anything that is related to action. And if it has comedy in it it's it's a huge plus so
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JennyErika: I'm just, I'm just happy that I got through it. I even have the list of my refrigerator, where I was checking them off as I was seeing them because I wanted to make sure that I actually was watching them in order, until I got to admin, but
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JennyErika: You know, I kind of skipped around
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JennyErika: But another favorite one, and I think this is a favorite one for a lot of people is Dr.
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Hong Lieu: Strange
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JennyErika: Yes, sorry.
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Hong Lieu: Yes, yes.
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JennyErika: I that one. I think I have watched have these eight times in the last year when I first got it. So it's always
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JennyErika: You know, it just always and there's always something new that I'm like I don't remember seeing that part, like, wait a minute. Okay, cool. So these movies just to me.
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JennyErika: Do remind me when I used to read comic books with my brother. So me and my older brother were four siblings two
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JennyErika: older ones. And then there's a 10 year gap. And then there's the other two. So me and my older brother. We were always doing things together. And so we would
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JennyErika: Find the comic books, you know, so we didn't have a comic book store anywhere. So sometimes we would be walking around and behind an alley somewhere.
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JennyErika: With a some kind of skateboard or a bicycle and we'll all look at Comic Book
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JennyErika: And we know we would just look at it and we will read it, read it all. It's about you know this, you know, you would see that like one of the comic books that we had
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JennyErika: Run into I think he was one about i'm not mistaken. It was actually for one of them. And we're all this is so cool. And then I remember taking it home and we me my brother reading it and we were
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JennyErika: Raised in a very strict religious home. And so, next thing you know you don't find her comic book anymore. So where's our comic book.
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JennyErika: And my mom had thrown in a way because you know we don't read this kind of stuff you know that's not allowed. You don't read this and we're like,
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JennyErika: Okay, so we don't do comic books, then, but so anytime him and I then after that still found some we made sure that hide them and other places, so that we could come back to them.
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JennyErika: Well, we were really much about that kind of
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JennyErika: So when the movie started coming out, you know, we were always pretty much up, they would tell me about him. I will be like, I can't. I have to do this for class or I have to do this for words I couldn't really
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JennyErika: Go out with them and enjoy those movies. But now that I can. I'm catching up. I feel more part of the conversation. I'm like, Yeah, I saw that one. I feel like that. Like, I'm an expert to say but
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JennyErika: Yeah, it's it's it's awesome. I just really enjoy being able to sit with good friends and watch a movie. And we have a crazy habit when we watch movies.
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JennyErika: When we really liked that we will out of nowhere. We will repeat lines from the movie. So something sparks our attention.
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JennyErika: Will just like look at each other, will it will repeat the line and people like how you doing, I'm like, it's from Thor. They're like,
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JennyErika: What are you talking about, like, look in your mind. You know, it's like this. Only we know what we're saying so. So it's, it's, it's, um,
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JennyErika: Yeah movies are thing for me and my family and my siblings. So the Marvels is really one of the ones I wanted to touch today because I like I said, I felt proud of myself for finally finishing an entire series of movies.
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JennyErika: I'm like I did it. I feel accomplished today that I finally finished all of these movies.
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Hong Lieu: That's my style and you got
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Hong Lieu: You got all of them like
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Hong Lieu: The Dark World and you know all
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JennyErika: Let me go get my list.
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Hong Lieu: Because I got
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Hong Lieu: Gaps
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Hong Lieu: I consider myself, you know, like a Marvel fan, but I
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Hong Lieu: I've definitely got gaps that I haven't seen all the movies.
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JennyErika: I have my list right here.
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JennyErika: There are Captain America Iron Man's incredible fog at Iron Man two for the Avengers Iron Man, Iron Man three
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JennyErika: For the Dark World Captain America. The Winter Soldier Guardians of the Galaxy guarding of galaxies to end this list goes on and on and on. And I got through all of them. So again, I was proud of myself.
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JennyErika: All through all of them. And I can talk about them, you know,
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JennyErika: But I can
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JennyErika: So I had my, you know, you want to hear the funny part though of this one tiger series. I think I was traveling to Louisiana, I think.
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JennyErika: And on my way back, they were playing a movie. So I watched the entire movie. And then I realized that it was the Avengers infinity war. The last one, and I had not even gone through half of them yet. And I was like, Oh, what did I do like
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JennyErika: Supposed to happen. And so I was just like I did not read I really thought that it was
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JennyErika: The other one that Captain America. The Winter Soldier. That's what I thought it was. I was watching, but it turns out it was the most recent release of the final a movie of the series. And I was like, I gotta pretend like
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Hong Lieu: You didn't see that happen.
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JennyErika: So,
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JennyErika: It just, it's a crazy little crazy world of mine, sometimes. So it's a little tiny bit.
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Akil Hill: Yeah, my daughter's recently got into Marvel and it's just like, of course, it's right at at the end of the summer. And so once school started. She's like, trying to
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Akil Hill: You know, come downstairs and post up on the couch watch a movie. I'm like, Yo, it's Monday, I know you got homework.
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Akil Hill: He you don't, we don't got time to be doing this right now. So yeah, so she's into it I, you know, I've never been a big Marvel
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Akil Hill: Comic book guy but I definitely have checked out. I've seen a few of them. And so they were better than what I thought so that's that's super cool. You know, I think a lot of people are revisiting
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Akil Hill: Like series like that in the in those ways in light of the pandemic, you know, they're like, I'm gonna watch you know
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Akil Hill: All this type of movie. You know what I mean, like, I haven't got to all the crazy kids yet but that's on my list to like just watching the one to two to three. The fourth. So that's pretty cool that you're, you're, you took that on you create the list and everything.
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Hong Lieu: Hey, if you're going to do. The Karate Kid, you have to include Cobra Kai in that as well.
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Akil Hill: Oh, I've already
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Hong Lieu: I've already seen it is legit I it is legit. I've been watched that one weekend. Oh.
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Akil Hill: We knocked it out. We knocked it out like in one day.
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JennyErika: I think the best part, when you when you decide to take on things like this is the fact that you don't have to wait for the next one to come out.
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Akil Hill: Yes, this
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JennyErika: Is the best part, something like I already have in my queue for whenever I get to a mission impossible series because I haven't seen none of those either. So during the four and I don't have to wait.
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JennyErika: I can directly man my week or plan my month on how I'm going to do this, but it's all there. So to me that's the beauty of it already been there is. I don't have to wait and be like, what am I going to do the next one is not
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Akil Hill: Yeah yeah
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Akil Hill: Exactly, exactly.
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Hong Lieu: One thing. The one thing I will say about the Marvel movies as someone who grew up collecting comics. When a comic stores on stuff.
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Hong Lieu: I'm very impressed with what they did with the characters because when I was growing up, Iron Man, Thor.
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Hong Lieu: That was like the B team, you know, like I didn't care that much about those characters. It was Spider Man X Men.
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Hong Lieu: Those were the Marvel characters that were big and comics. You know, it was like those. So those movies came out first and Marvel had the license. You know, they ended up going to Disney, but Marvel is doing movies.
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Hong Lieu: And they had all these other characters and they found a way to get
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Hong Lieu: Everyone to care about these characters, where these characters are now the team and like people think of me spider man's up there too, because he got roped in as well. But like no one's looking at X Men like they're the number one anymore.
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Hong Lieu: You know I
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Hong Lieu: Mean it's Iron Man and it's Thor and it's Captain America where those. I mean, the reason they put them on the Avengers comic in the first place was because their books by themselves weren't selling so they had to pack them together like we got
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Akil Hill: Yeah.
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Hong Lieu: Or heroes heroes. And heroes on heroes. I mean, they may they may people care about Luke Cage and iron fist, which are that's almost like the seat here at a certain point, you know, so
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Hong Lieu: So, if you will. I mean, and Daredevil. I mean, I'm very impressed with how they were able to take these characters because you know superheroes a square there they have
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Hong Lieu: Ours above and beyond new to make people care about the increased storylines that kind of resonate folks, big props. I mean, we can talk about the mainstreaming of
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Hong Lieu: Of nerd culture in this and that all but to take these characters and make them as big and as huge as they are that I mean, no matter what. That's that skill.
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JennyErika: Above all, we visit and see them again and you know because it's it's one thing to see a movie. One time, Sarah co sign it and then you're good, but the fact that you're okay with watching it again and still seeing new things in them.
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JennyErika: What I what I enjoy from these movies after now seeing the series is
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JennyErika: When you're seeing them in sequence, you catch those little things that happened in the other movie. And you're like, Oh, I know what they're talking about. They're talking about movie. Number three, you know, so it's just really the right how they have been able to just create this
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JennyErika: Great flow with all of them. There's just amazing flows. So this is just, I mean I can I, yeah, I see an after this
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JennyErika: Sunday. I'm probably going to pick one. The number watch
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Hong Lieu: And it could it could have gone wrong at any point any of those movies as a total dud. And the whole universe thing goes off the rails, like you saw with DC when they put out that Justice League movie.
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Hong Lieu: And it was like yeah and then it's kind of the reevaluating things Marvel could have had it done at any point, but they kept just hammering out hammered out hammered out really good movies and you know they're able to let it ride and they're going to keep it moving. Supposedly, so
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JennyErika: Yeah, I'm telling you I Skip Ad man, just because of the title.
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JennyErika: I was like, okay, I was so this
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Hong Lieu: Those are good.
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Hong Lieu: They're like, they're like little, little tight little crime capers the powers are there, but it's like it's just like a nice little yeah keeper story that
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JennyErika: is hilarious deal so
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Hong Lieu: Yeah, that's, that's the other thing they will take all the characters and do different types of movies like Iron Man, Thor movies like the big budget spectacles.
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Hong Lieu: Ant Man is born like classic crime keepers, you have the spider man, which is the coming of age stories, you know. So they were able to kind of rope all the genres in as well so it's
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JennyErika: So nice. It puts it all into one.
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Hong Lieu: All right, I will
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Hong Lieu: Jump on this real quick with a quick segue.
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Hong Lieu: My pic is Doom Patrol, which is DC so it's it's a comic story, but it's a DC Comics because
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Hong Lieu: Like I said when I was growing up comics. The Marvel characters were great, but I, I was more of a DC person. I like Batman or Superman.
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Hong Lieu: And I like the DC stories that vertigo and all that stuff. So do patrol came out I think 1989 it was when the original run came out.
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Hong Lieu: But I was just starting to click consciousness. I didn't get into it to a little later. As I met him in the keel might know this, but I'm late to a lot of things.
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Hong Lieu: I come back to things like when things come out like in there. And there are people into it. It takes me a while to revisit it I'm like okay now Molly.
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Hong Lieu: But yeah, so I got into that about, you know, mid to late 90s, because of Grant Morrison, who is the writer of Doom Patrol.
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Hong Lieu: And I mentioned to patrol specifically because they have the TV show. Now it was on DC Universe, but it's on HBO max now. So if you have HBO max. You can check it out.
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Hong Lieu: And it's just superhero stories that are a little kind of left of center that are a little quirky
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Hong Lieu: The superior themselves are kind of odd and the stories are really kind of out there like you know there's villains that are like surrealist
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Hong Lieu: Paintings a trap people inside paintings and there's there's one of the heroes is has
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Hong Lieu: multiple personalities and things of that sort. So it was just one of those things I was growing up reading it.
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Hong Lieu: Be kind of resonated me because it was kind of weird and quirky and that's kind of how I how I felt when I was growing up, so
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Hong Lieu: Seeing the show. Now, which I haven't had a chance to catch the full run but I hear it's really good.
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Hong Lieu: But those books. Specifically, I still have my original issues in my room in the back over there, but
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Hong Lieu: Those that are that that Grant Morrison run on do betrayal was very transformative for me because it was kind of a turning point in comics to comics in the mid to late 80s were kind of turning
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Hong Lieu: The classic superhero stories they called the golden age of shifted and it was now you know the modern like
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Hong Lieu: A lot of them are dark and gritty, but it was also a licensed that kind of do more things with superhero story. So, these, this was kind of taken that torch and it was it like explores things about like
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Hong Lieu: Mysticism shamanism slightly occult things but it's it's not quite the greedy like Dark Knight Returns stuff. It's not quite the watchman like post, post modern deconstructing of a superhero.
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Hong Lieu: It's just a chance to tell kind of weird quirky stories and it sounds like that's what the show was picked up on to so they just didn't tell super stories that are a little weird.
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Hong Lieu: But for a lot of folks. Weird. Weird is cool. So it's just a nice little kind of quirky thing. So yeah, Doom Patrol.
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Hong Lieu: This show is probably really good and I know the show does kind of lead on some of the Grant Morrison stories, but if you can track down the Grant Morrison run a boom patrol, definitely do that. I'll put a link to some trade paperbacks in the show notes. Nice.
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Hong Lieu: Nice, but you gotta kill
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Akil Hill: I'm going to change it up. I'm going to kind of flip the script a little bit. I
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Akil Hill: For my peace I have been playing and listening to a lot
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Akil Hill: Of jazz and and this piece that I'm gonna
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Akil Hill: Suggest everyone to take a moment and listen to. It's entitled Alabama and it's by john Coltrane, and
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Akil Hill: It was
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Akil Hill: It was
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Akil Hill: Basically composed in light of the 16th Street.
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Akil Hill: Baptist church bombing and sep tember 15th 1963 I think most of us know about the for African little girls African American girls that were in the church that the church was bombed by the Ku Klux Klan.
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Akil Hill: In Birmingham, Alabama. So john really never spoke a whole lot about the song he actually recorded it he met with
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Akil Hill: Like four guys, I think it was a query Tyner that was on the panel in that in that track as mccorry timer Elvin Jones was on drums and I forgetting. Who else was on base on that but
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Akil Hill: They basically recorded it
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Akil Hill: A couple months after the bombing.
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Akil Hill: And so that piece has been waiting a little bit heavy on me and in the significance. And the reason is because in light of what our country is going through in the call for justice for beyond a tailor this song has been kind of on my mind a lot lately.
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Akil Hill: I just find it a little bit.
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Akil Hill: Somber into to kind of reflect a little bit on reality tailored in her life and
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Akil Hill: It's, I was thinking about
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Akil Hill: You know 65 years to the day that Emmett Till's
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Akil Hill: Course accusers were acquitted.
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Akil Hill: Brianna's Taylor.
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Akil Hill: People were acquitted. So, September, for some reason is is a super somber month from this, the events that continue to occur, but I just wanted to take a moment didn't want to show the end without bringing up Brianna's Taylor's name and and and just
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Akil Hill: Recognizing that at this present moment. So my song Alabama john Coltrane, please take a moment, listen to it kind of just reflect on it. Think about those who have lost their lives to hatred and those who continue to get off.
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Akil Hill: In the system that's that upholds white supremacy is
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Hong Lieu: nothing more to say on that.
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Hong Lieu: I mean even john Coltrane as a jazz composition as you without even any vocal tracks like you know lyrics, you can make powerful statements and
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Hong Lieu: Just kind of evoke
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Hong Lieu: Yeah. Mr. There has to be said.
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JennyErika: Man, yeah.
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Akil Hill: All right, all right.
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Hong Lieu: And on that note,
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Hong Lieu: Thank you Jenny Erica, for joining us for this episode.
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Akil Hill: Yes, thank you, Jenny. Erica was such a pleasure, a blessing to have you on the show. Well,
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JennyErika: Thank you gentlemen for letting me be a part of your show and be able to share with our community they transfer achievement program here from Santa Barbara City College.
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JennyErika: And I would like to also say congratulations to our class of 2021 that will be applied in a couple of weeks as they move forward in their transfer journey. So Congratulations, Class of 2021, you got this.
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Hong Lieu: And we'll see you next time. Thank you very much. Thank you for listening.